nogerO wrote:"Same goes for Flowe. Both guys are hobbled and much of our struggles on D can be traced back to them.
Bridges and the secondary catch a lot of flack but we’ve actually performed well against vertical passing attacks; we held Arizona to 82 yards below their average through the air. It’s the underneath and sideline to sideline stuff that’s killed us.
I don’t put a ton of stock into PFF grades but just for reference our LBs are grading out really poorly so far this season. By far the worst unit on the team."
At times it seems our linebackers are more interested in making a "big hit" than breaking down and tackling and fulfilling their gap assignments. Pretty disappointing so far.
Has the defensive scheme changed that much that Sewell would not be able to adapt? Last year he was making a huge impact and running to the ball, this year I have watched a lot of plays where he is just sitting behind the looking indecisive and shuffling his feet. Is that by design, injuries, new system issues, or is he just not as intense this year? I loved watching the kid play last year, this year I was hoping to see him bring the lumber. I hope he can get better, it could only improve his draft stock if he starts lighting people up again.
nogerO wrote:"Same goes for Flowe. Both guys are hobbled and much of our struggles on D can be traced back to them.
Bridges and the secondary catch a lot of flack but we’ve actually performed well against vertical passing attacks; we held Arizona to 82 yards below their average through the air. It’s the underneath and sideline to sideline stuff that’s killed us.
I don’t put a ton of stock into PFF grades but just for reference our LBs are grading out really poorly so far this season. By far the worst unit on the team."
At times it seems our linebackers are more interested in making a "big hit" than breaking down and tackling and fulfilling their gap assignments. Pretty disappointing so far.
Has the defensive scheme changed that much that Sewell would not be able to adapt? Last year he was making a huge impact and running to the ball, this year I have watched a lot of plays where he is just sitting behind the looking indecisive and shuffling his feet. Is that by design, injuries, new system issues, or is he just not as intense this year? I loved watching the kid play last year, this year I was hoping to see him bring the lumber. I hope he can get better, it could only improve his draft stock if he starts lighting people up again.
From what I’ve heard from people that know way more than me, Deruyter and Wilson were terrible coaches and as a result the LB’s developed really bad habits. Sewell was able to make noise sometimes because of talent alone and he really just played for himself not his team. Last year his pass defense was non-existent and he would tend to run into a pile and lose gap assignment. This year Tosh and Lanning have been working to break those bad habits and you can see improvement from him each week but sometimes those old bad habits creep back, like that long TD run against Zona, rather than staying in his gap he ran after the big pile and let the RB have a wide open hole to run through. I think it was QB11 that said last year you could tell he didn’t trust his teammates and he’s having to learn to do that, and it was evident cause Flowe was in his gap assignment on that TD run from Zona but Sewell still immediately run over which to me indicates he didn’t trust Flowe to do his job. Sewell will continue to improve, and despite his high draft stock I have delusional hope he and Flowe return for one more year so we can see them play to their potential, cause Lanning and Tosh will get it out of them.
nogerO wrote:"Same goes for Flowe. Both guys are hobbled and much of our struggles on D can be traced back to them.
Bridges and the secondary catch a lot of flack but we’ve actually performed well against vertical passing attacks; we held Arizona to 82 yards below their average through the air. It’s the underneath and sideline to sideline stuff that’s killed us.
I don’t put a ton of stock into PFF grades but just for reference our LBs are grading out really poorly so far this season. By far the worst unit on the team."
At times it seems our linebackers are more interested in making a "big hit" than breaking down and tackling and fulfilling their gap assignments. Pretty disappointing so far.
Has the defensive scheme changed that much that Sewell would not be able to adapt? Last year he was making a huge impact and running to the ball, this year I have watched a lot of plays where he is just sitting behind the looking indecisive and shuffling his feet. Is that by design, injuries, new system issues, or is he just not as intense this year? I loved watching the kid play last year, this year I was hoping to see him bring the lumber. I hope he can get better, it could only improve his draft stock if he starts lighting people up again.
From what I’ve heard from people that know way more than me, Deruyter and Wilson were terrible coaches and as a result the LB’s developed really bad habits. Sewell was able to make noise sometimes because of talent alone and he really just played for himself not his team. Last year his pass defense was non-existent and he would tend to run into a pile and lose gap assignment. This year Tosh and Lanning have been working to break those bad habits and you can see improvement from him each week but sometimes those old bad habits creep back, like that long TD run against Zona, rather than staying in his gap he ran after the big pile and let the RB have a wide open hole to run through. I think it was QB11 that said last year you could tell he didn’t trust his teammates and he’s having to learn to do that, and it was evident cause Flowe was in his gap assignment on that TD run from Zona but Sewell still immediately run over which to me indicates he didn’t trust Flowe to do his job. Sewell will continue to improve, and despite his high draft stock I have delusional hope he and Flowe return for one more year so we can see them play to their potential, cause Lanning and Tosh will get it out of them.
The new defense is more complex as well. Add in the fact that Sewell missed fall camp because of his injury and you get what we’ve seen so far. Sewell is learning on the fly and it’s shown, but he also looks to be getting better each week. Hoping that down the stretch we see things start to click for Sewell and Flowe and our D becomes dominant.
nogerO wrote:"Same goes for Flowe. Both guys are hobbled and much of our struggles on D can be traced back to them.
Bridges and the secondary catch a lot of flack but we’ve actually performed well against vertical passing attacks; we held Arizona to 82 yards below their average through the air. It’s the underneath and sideline to sideline stuff that’s killed us.
I don’t put a ton of stock into PFF grades but just for reference our LBs are grading out really poorly so far this season. By far the worst unit on the team."
At times it seems our linebackers are more interested in making a "big hit" than breaking down and tackling and fulfilling their gap assignments. Pretty disappointing so far.
Has the defensive scheme changed that much that Sewell would not be able to adapt? Last year he was making a huge impact and running to the ball, this year I have watched a lot of plays where he is just sitting behind the looking indecisive and shuffling his feet. Is that by design, injuries, new system issues, or is he just not as intense this year? I loved watching the kid play last year, this year I was hoping to see him bring the lumber. I hope he can get better, it could only improve his draft stock if he starts lighting people up again.
From what I’ve heard from people that know way more than me, Deruyter and Wilson were terrible coaches and as a result the LB’s developed really bad habits. Sewell was able to make noise sometimes because of talent alone and he really just played for himself not his team. Last year his pass defense was non-existent and he would tend to run into a pile and lose gap assignment. This year Tosh and Lanning have been working to break those bad habits and you can see improvement from him each week but sometimes those old bad habits creep back, like that long TD run against Zona, rather than staying in his gap he ran after the big pile and let the RB have a wide open hole to run through. I think it was QB11 that said last year you could tell he didn’t trust his teammates and he’s having to learn to do that, and it was evident cause Flowe was in his gap assignment on that TD run from Zona but Sewell still immediately run over which to me indicates he didn’t trust Flowe to do his job. Sewell will continue to improve, and despite his high draft stock I have delusional hope he and Flowe return for one more year so we can see them play to their potential, cause Lanning and Tosh will get it out of them.
Very interesting OF4L. I honestly wondered what might be going on. Appreciate the insights.
I have faith in DL and Lup so hope they get things clicking as the Ducks are coming into the teeth of their schedule.
Interesting. I was under the impression that DeRuyter and Wilson were both great coaches. At this point, I think Sewell needs to come back next year? The lack of production this year is not helping his stock. He's also pretty heavy for an ILB - I don't think there are any ILB's this big in the NFL? I'm under the impression that Flowe is also coming back next year. He has yet to play a full season and this is his 3rd year.
Interesting. I was under the impression that DeRuyter and Wilson were both great coaches. At this point, I think Sewell needs to come back next year? The lack of production this year is not helping his stock. He's also pretty heavy for an ILB - I don't think there are any ILB's this big in the NFL? I'm under the impression that Flowe is also coming back next year. He has yet to play a full season and this is his 3rd year.
Maybe they were just past their prime at Oregon, maybe the coaches didn’t gel together well last season, but for whatever reason they did not do good at Oregon and it showed with the defense last year.
I believe Sewell is a projected first rounder, so he probably won’t come back. As for Flowe not sure where he’s at I think there’s a good chance he returns.
I think Flowe comes back. I bet that's the feedback he'll get from the pros if he inquires. With the young talent we have at LB, I like where we're at either way.
NIL is a big game changer, even for guys who might go in the 1st as it's possible that a NIL offer is greater than what they'd make as a rookie.
From Oregon's Collective perspective, it might also be seen as a better ROI to save the big $ for guys who have proven it so to speak. Christian Gonzalez is another guy along with Dorlus who you'd look at with Sewell and Flowe as being guys you'd like to have back next year that are all draftable prospects.
