Warned y'all about XBOX Tosh

[GrantDuck]

Pathetic.

[Tray Dub]

Genuine question: what does that nickname mean?

[Duck07]

Genuine question: what does that nickname mean?

Due to his youth, Tosh Lupoi as a first year assistant at Cal was known to connect with recruits playing Xbox.

It's a dumb comment for Oregon fans to make seeing as how the NCAA ruled we couldn't have Xboxs in the locker room unless there were Xboxs made available elsewhere on campus for students to play.

Schematically I didn't see anything glaringly wrong with the defense. We know we are lacking in talent so the one criticism should be how much development are they capable of?

[GrantDuck]

Genuine question: what does that nickname mean?

He was a DL coach for Cal when they snagged a ton of DL recruits away from us. One of the players said he loved Tosh because he was cool and played XBox with them, but we all knew it was shady recruiting, which he later got caught for at UW.

[greenyellow]

Biggest issue with the defense is they have no pass rushers who can consistently get to or hurry the opposing QB. Losing KT shows just how dependent they were on him to generate that pass rush. This is sort of on the previous staff for not recruiting better at DL and OLB.

[GrantDuck]

Biggest issue with the defense is they have no pass rushers who can consistently get to or hurry the opposing QB. Losing KT shows just how dependent they were on him to generate that pass rush. This is sort of on the previous staff for not recruiting better at DL and OLB.

I don't disagree, but our secondary is still blowing a ton of coverages.

[whosyourwally]

Biggest issue with the defense is they have no pass rushers who can consistently get to or hurry the opposing QB. Losing KT shows just how dependent they were on him to generate that pass rush. This is sort of on the previous staff for not recruiting better at DL and OLB.

I don't disagree, but our secondary is still blowing a ton of coverages.

In large part due to how comfortable these QB’s are in the pocket. Penix’s accuracy under even moderate pressure was notably worse.
He was playing catch all night. I almost appreciated the shot Sewell got flagged for, just because he reminded Penix what the turf felt like.


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[greenyellow]

Biggest issue with the defense is they have no pass rushers who can consistently get to or hurry the opposing QB. Losing KT shows just how dependent they were on him to generate that pass rush. This is sort of on the previous staff for not recruiting better at DL and OLB.

I don't disagree, but our secondary is still blowing a ton of coverages.

In large part due to how comfortable these QB’s are in the pocket. Penix’s accuracy under even moderate pressure was notably worse.
He was playing catch all night. I almost appreciated the shot Sewell got flagged for, just because he reminded Penix what the turf felt like.


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Wasn't that Flowe, not Sewell, on the late hit?

[DmoneyDuck]

I get it, we're all frustrated with the defense ... the lack of pressure, the lack of stops on third down. But I'm not seeing a roster loaded with talent on that side of the ball. Sure, if you look at Chile Duck's depth chart, sort by star rankings, it looks absolutely stocked, but gold internet stars don't win you games.

We've all wondered aloud whether Mario and Co. were actually talent evaluators or just chasing stars to say they have a "Top X" recruiting class. It sure looks that way if you go up and down the defense. The talent just isn't there and we all knew deep down it was only a matter of time before the defense bended too far.

The Pros:
- The interior linemen generally are doing a great job at stopping the run
- Dorlus and DJ are really the only lineman capable of generating some form of a pass rush and I feel like both have been dinged up quite a bit this year
- Gonzo is fabulous. Where would Oregon be without his transfer from Colorado?

The Cons:
- Hardly any pass rush
- Aside from Gonzo, teams are picking apart the secondary.
- Not much depth, especially up front
- The linebacking core. It sure looks like they were taught some bad habits by the previous staff. The middle of the field is generally open for business and the boundaries have been easy pickings for teams as well. Again lots of "star" talent here but there hasn't been much impact from this group.

Losing KT was also a major blow. It's easy to forget just how much attention he attracted from the opposing offenses, which allowed others to roam unaccounted for. Over the past few recruiting cycles, an edge rush of his caliber was simply not in the pipeline.

Bottom line: I'm just not sure any coaching is solving this talent issue unless it's on the recruiting trail. It reminds me of the past few seasons in Portland. If you have a team that isn't constructed to play on the defensive side of the ball, you're going to be bad on defense. Joe Cronin steps in, adds more size (and depth!!) on the wings, and now the Blazers are at least middle of the road defensively.

Talent is always more important than coaching. Now, you need both to win big, but it starts with the players first.

[whosyourwally]

DMoney, I mostly agree, but I’d challenge that coaching is as important as talent. See USC every prior year on one end and teams like Boise State, TCU, and Cincinnati on the other.

More in line with your post, you can’t teach IQ or instincts. And my theory is our LB’s and DB’s are lacking in one/both areas.

Lastly, what I wouldn’t do to have 6’2” Nick Reed lining up on the edge right now…


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[snapt]

The lack of pass rush has been frustrating but no surprise. I think one of the big issues is it seems like its the first time I can remember that we don't have ball hawking safety to bail out our inexperienced secondary. Gonzo is solid but even the best get beat, Bennett is a sure tackler but doesn't seem to have the range of a Mckinley or Holland. Remember dudes like Boyett, Patterson and Pleasant who always seemed to be around the ball in the air? The good news is going forward is we've had some young DBs who were painful to watch in their first year who ended up big time (pretty much every one of the D boys took their licks as first year starters).

LB play seems to be coming around. It's interesting that we've settled on Sewell or Flowe on the field, but not both like earlier in the season.

Our tackling has much improved which shows if nothing else this group is coachable.

Between the young guys, recruiting and transfer portal, hopefully the D lines and secondary see an improvement next season. I've been convinced since Chip was hired that D coordinator at Oregon is one of the tougher jobs out there with time of possession frequently lopsided and trying to defend against teams taking shots to try to keep up. I was always impressed that an old dog like Allioti without the recruiting classes we have now was able to adapt like he did (It was nice to see him on the sidelines in an Oregon letterman jacket last night btw.)

[OregonFan4Life]

If McKinley stayed we win the game last night, players like McKinely leaving early really bother me. He needed another year and the team needed him. He’d be a huge asset this year with the safeties we have.

[GrantDuck]

XBox Tosh and Dan Helfrich, out on the trail!

[greenyellow]

XBox Tosh and Dan Helfrich, out on the trail!

Take it easy on the negativity already.

[droop10]

XBox Tosh and Dan Helfrich, out on the trail!

Fans calling out Lanning recruiting because 1 recruit possibly flipped is so ridiculous. A good portion of our fan base is hard to deal with.