Holiday Bowl: #15 Oregon v UNC (Dec. 28, Wed 5 PM Fox)

[Tray Dub]

A lot of the fun of sports comes from deciding to care. If people want to be blasé about this they can, but I have great memories of lesser bowls, including Joey stumbling into the endzone in the 2000 Holiday Bowl:





You guys be partypoopers (or doodlepants) if you want, I'm gonna have a good time.

[droop10]

A lot of the fun of sports comes from deciding to care. If people want to be blasé about this they can, but I have great memories of lesser bowls, including Joey stumbling into the endzone in the 2000 Holiday Bowl:





You guys be partypoopers (or doodlepants) if you want, I'm gonna have a good time.

I’ll be content watching. I’ll always watch Duck football, I just won’t be affected if they lose. Those were different times then. Bowl games meant a little bit more without playoffs, the transfer portal, and guys choosing to sit out. You can’t tell me I should take a game seriously when 20 guys that were on the team to end the regular seasonwill no longer be on the roster.

[droop10]

The spring game is a glorified scrimmage. This is not that.

Expectations are higher and the Holiday Bowl is not the destination we're aiming for, but it's where we are and winning impressively would set the tone for Oregon football going forward. I admitedly wasn't too excited about our bowl destination following UW beating WSU, but now that Nix is playing it's game on. They players are taking this game seriously, and so should fans.

Eh, hard to say players take it seriously when 1/4 of the team is essentially opting out of playing the game. Yes, the guys that will play are going to likely play hard, but we already have the top corner on each team opting out of the game. How should I treat this like a real game?

[greenyellow]

How about we cut out the namecalling and passive aggressive attacks?

[chapelhillduck]

Does the bowl game count like any other game for redshirts or can they play without it impacting status?

Given the opt outs we’re gonna get a look at guys we haven’t seen all year


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[Alan]

Does the bowl game count like any other game for redshirts or can they play without it impacting status?

Given the opt outs we’re gonna get a look at guys we haven’t seen all year


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I may be wrong but I believe it is like any other game.

Please confirm or correct me if I am wrong, we currently have 13 players out of the bowl game but only four, maybe five players see time on the field. DJ, Flowe, Gonz, Thornton, and ?

[Duck07]

Bowl games count towards your "4 games" that you can play in without burning a RS. 5 games starts a year.

Ben Roberts FR - DL looks to have already played in 4 games so another game would burn a RS.
Devon Jackson FR - LB looks to have played in 4.
Steven Jones JR - OL shows as having been in 3 games but I think thats an error
Isaah Crocker JR - WR shows up with 4 games.
Kyler Kasper FR - WR shows up with 3 games

I'd wager that Steven Jones is the only of those 5 that plays followed by Kasper if my numbers are correct.
Anyone else still on the roster either has less than 3 games played or more than 5 making playing moot towards the RS.

[UOducksTK1]

A lot of the fun of sports comes from deciding to care. If people want to be blasé about this they can, but I have great memories of lesser bowls, including Joey stumbling into the endzone in the 2000 Holiday Bowl:





You guys be partypoopers (or doodlepants) if you want, I'm gonna have a good time.

Playing Texas is a different story.

[pezsez1]

Eh, hard to say players take it seriously when 1/4 of the team is essentially opting out of playing the game. Yes, the guys that will play are going to likely play hard, but we already have the top corner on each team opting out of the game. How should I treat this like a real game?

I don't think 1/4 of the team is opting out... that number seems a bit high. We'll probably have fewer key guys opting out than we've had key guys injured during single games this season. And each team's top corners being out will just make the game more interesting. Same could have happened at any point during the year with injuries or bad targeting calls.

That said, the issue of whether teams will play hard is interesting. I was listening to Primetime with Isaac and Suke yesterday and they were talking about this very issue. One of them played college football and was saying just how little many teams care about their bowl games -- unless the matchup is somehow meaningful, players just want to be done and NOT spend another month in football practice when they could just be resting or enjoying the holidays. (He also pointed out that players are pretty much in constant pain/discomfort by the season's end and they want to start healing).

Motivation, though, wasn't limited to which bowl games teams were heading toward. Opponents mattered, and other factors (such as going for an undefeated season) mattered.

I think Bo coming back for another game will make this matter for Oregon. That, alone, sends a message that the Ducks are looking to make a statement. And I think North Carolina will take this seriously simply for the opportunity to say they've beaten Oregon, which has a strong national brand.

So, yeah... concerns are noted, and they're real, but I think Bo coming back changes the dynamics and makes this a game worth looking forward to.

[duckfan96]

UNCs leading receiver is going to skip the bowl(cant find article but saw someone talking bout it)

[greenyellow]

UNCs leading receiver is going to skip the bowl(cant find article but saw someone talking bout it)

Certainly looks like it based on this Instagram post he made after the ACC CG.

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[droop10]

Eh, hard to say players take it seriously when 1/4 of the team is essentially opting out of playing the game. Yes, the guys that will play are going to likely play hard, but we already have the top corner on each team opting out of the game. How should I treat this like a real game?

I don't think 1/4 of the team is opting out... that number seems a bit high. We'll probably have fewer key guys opting out than we've had key guys injured during single games this season. And each team's top corners being out will just make the game more interesting. Same could have happened at any point during the year with injuries or bad targeting calls.

That said, the issue of whether teams will play hard is interesting. I was listening to Primetime with Isaac and Suke yesterday and they were talking about this very issue. One of them played college football and was saying just how little many teams care about their bowl games -- unless the matchup is somehow meaningful, players just want to be done and NOT spend another month in football practice when they could just be resting or enjoying the holidays. (He also pointed out that players are pretty much in constant pain/discomfort by the season's end and they want to start healing).

Motivation, though, wasn't limited to which bowl games teams were heading toward. Opponents mattered, and other factors (such as going for an undefeated season) mattered.

I think Bo coming back for another game will make this matter for Oregon. That, alone, sends a message that the Ducks are looking to make a statement. And I think North Carolina will take this seriously simply for the opportunity to say they've beaten Oregon, which has a strong national brand.

So, yeah... concerns are noted, and they're real, but I think Bo coming back changes the dynamics and makes this a game worth looking forward to.

For the 1/4 opting out, I’m also counting guys in the portal, as they won’t be playing. I know we aren’t there yet, but well on the way to seeing around 15 guys in the portal. 1/4 might have been a bit of an exaggeration, but they won’t be far off from. 20 guys sitting out. Maybe some of them wait until after the season. We’ll see, but it’s definitely a sizable chunk of the roster that won’t be available. At this point, they’ll have about 2 LBs available. (Not actually liking at roster, so I’m sure that’s an exaggeration). I think once the expanded playoff goes into effect, people will pay even less attention to these lower tier bowl games.

[pezsez1]

Definitely a good point about guys hitting the portal.

[RanDux]

Does the bowl game count like any other game for redshirts or can they play without it impacting status?

Given the opt outs we’re gonna get a look at guys we haven’t seen all year


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I may be wrong but I believe it is like any other game.

Please confirm or correct me if I am wrong, we currently have 13 players out of the bowl game but only four, maybe five players see time on the field. DJ, Flowe, Gonz, Thornton, and ?

Why is Flowe not playing? Please tell me he is not entering the NFL draft.

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[Alan]

Does the bowl game count like any other game for redshirts or can they play without it impacting status?

Given the opt outs we’re gonna get a look at guys we haven’t seen all year


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I may be wrong but I believe it is like any other game.

Please confirm or correct me if I am wrong, we currently have 13 players out of the bowl game but only four, maybe five players see time on the field. DJ, Flowe, Gonz, Thornton, and ?

Why is Flowe not playing? Please tell me he is not entering the NFL draft.

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He is in the portal