WR Traeshon Holden arrested and dismissed from team

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If this is to be believed, sounds like a LMJ type situation. Wish crazy neighbors would have stayed out of it. Then his girlfriend would have not got back in.
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Bottom line-you don’t pull a gun on someone unless your life is threatened. NOT because someone pepper sprayed your ass.
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buckmarkduck wrote:https://twitter.com/DSAFootball/status/ ... 35396?s=20

If this is to be believed, sounds like a LMJ type situation. Wish crazy neighbors would have stayed out of it. Then his girlfriend would have not got back in.

Very similar to the LMJ incident…… if would not have brought out a gun he would probably still be on the team.
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buckmarkduck wrote:https://twitter.com/DSAFootball/status/ ... 35396?s=20

If this is to be believed, sounds like a LMJ type situation. Wish crazy neighbors would have stayed out of it. Then his girlfriend would have not got back in.
If this is accurate and there aren’t other issues at play, I hope Lanning brings him back. Also, those neighbors sounds like real pieces of work. Are they getting charged for pepper spraying someone who was just defending himself?
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It was either call the cops or pull out a gun, and whether you believe it’s right or not, a lot of young black men are afraid to call the cops. If what this Scott Reed is saying is true then I do believe DL reacted too quickly and I’m a little disappointed. He should’ve done what Chip did and wait for the entire story to come out, even if the punishment is the same. Just looks better once the report is out.
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OregonFan4Life wrote:It was either call the cops or pull out a gun, and whether you believe it’s right or not, a lot of young black men are afraid to call the cops. If what this Scott Reed is saying is true then I do believe DL reacted too quickly and I’m a little disappointed. He should’ve done what Chip did and wait for the entire story to come out, even if the punishment is the same. Just looks better once the report is out.

I get DL was trying to be proactive here. But there is a place in between DL acting to quickly or another HC at the university not doing anything until way after the fact.
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It sounds like Lanning gave him the quick hook due to him hearing about it being a domestic violence charge. He might have been better off just going with a suspension initially.
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I wonder how it would have played out if a gun was not involved.

I wonder if DL is in a solo position to reinstate him
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Does he have a conceal carry license? He would get arrested for weapons charges if he didn't have a gun license right?

I have no knowledge of gun laws and am curious how it works, because he is not charged with firearms charges.
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alxtw wrote:Does he have a conceal carry license? He would get arrested for weapons charges if he didn't have a gun license right?

I have no knowledge of gun laws and am curious how it works, because he is not charged with firearms charges.
You do not need any special license to own a firearm. A concealed carry permit allows a gun owner to hide the firearm on their person and walk around with it. A convicted felon can not own a firearm.
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Oregon is an open-carry state. If you don't try to hide a gun you are allowed to carry one almost anywhere (building rules apply) you only will get in trouble if you won't leave when asked by the owner.
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It's not that unusual to witness people from pretty much all walks of life carrying in some form, all over Eugene.

Not too long ago in Oregon, it was legal for any trained law enforcement officer to carry concealed, without a permit, including off duty.

Having a visible firearm is not necessarily an offense of any kind, depending on what is being done with it. Waving it around during an altercation is not the same s carrying it in a holster or waste band... Witnesses can interpret what the intent was or is, but without video, it's till hearsay.

God forbid you are in a situation where you have no corroborating evidence or witnesses on your behalf.
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Responding to the original question about gun laws……. You can not just simply walk in public with a firearm on your side or under your coat, you need a class room certificate for both.
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"You can open carry in Oregon if you are at least eighteen years old or more without having a felony record and a state or federal prohibition to possess firearms."

https://gunlawsuits.org/gun-laws/oregon/open-carry/

"Is Firearm Training A Requirement For Applying For Oregon Concealed Firearm permit?
Yes, you must complete a firearm training approved by the state, and this could be either a safety training from the department of fishery and wildlife or a public firearm training organized by a law enforcement agency."

"A state-certified instructor must be in charge of the firearm training."
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I saw a tweet by QB11 calling for a reinstatement of Holden to the team by Lanning, I can’t say I agree, DL made his decision and there was a gun involved, LMJ did not show a gun.
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