Pac-12/Big 10/Big 12 Realignment

[greenyellow]

Do the Big 10 and SEC have "performance based CFP distributions"?

I don't think so. I know the ACC does and maybe the Big 12 is in the process of possibly doing so as well.

[squintsdd]

Something I heard the other day from canzano, and this will be a good way to judge his sources and credibility, is that the Pac12 schools are expecting to get a better deal than the Big12's current deal. If this does end up being the case, I wouldn't expect any defectors, and probably the addition of at least 2 schools

[SuperDuck]

Something I heard the other day from canzano, and this will be a good way to judge his sources and credibility, is that the Pac12 schools are expecting to get a better deal than the Big12's current deal. If this does end up being the case, I wouldn't expect any defectors, and probably the addition of at least 2 schools

That would be awesome!

I wonder who the second school would be, though? SMU would likely jump at the chance, but from what I understand, they're not nearly as popular in the DFW area as TCU is.

[DuckMastaFunk]

Something I heard the other day from canzano, and this will be a good way to judge his sources and credibility, is that the Pac12 schools are expecting to get a better deal than the Big12's current deal. If this does end up being the case, I wouldn't expect any defectors, and probably the addition of at least 2 schools

Wasn't this always true? The Pac has better schools, media markets, and the ability to fill late time slots. I think the shocking thing would be if the Pac gets a worse deal than the Big12.

[pezsez1]

Wasn't this always true? The Pac has better schools, media markets, and the ability to fill late time slots. I think the shocking thing would be if the Pac gets a worse deal than the Big12.

Gotta hand it to the Big-12 though for going all-in on media warfare and trying to position itself as the third-best conference in the minds of college football fans. It was a smart move.

The Big-12 is going to look utterly ridiculous though (as will many pundits across the sports media landscape) unless its deal is significantly better than the Pac-12's. Will look even worse if the Pac-12's deal is better.

[JIDuck97]

Wasn't this always true? The Pac has better schools, media markets, and the ability to fill late time slots. I think the shocking thing would be if the Pac gets a worse deal than the Big12.

Gotta hand it to the Big-12 though for going all-in on media warfare and trying to position itself as the third-best conference in the minds of college football fans. It was a smart move.

The Big-12 is going to look utterly ridiculous though (as will many pundits across the sports media landscape) unless its deal is significantly better than the Pac-12's. Will look even worse if the Pac-12's deal is better.

I feel like in the end for all the drama it will end up a bit boring for the Big12 as far as the Pac12 is concerned.

[ducks5ever]

Something I heard the other day from canzano, and this will be a good way to judge his sources and credibility, is that the Pac12 schools are expecting to get a better deal than the Big12's current deal. If this does end up being the case, I wouldn't expect any defectors, and probably the addition of at least 2 schools

Wasn't this always true? The Pac has better schools, media markets, and the ability to fill late time slots. I think the shocking thing would be if the Pac gets a worse deal than the Big12.

I dont think we live in the same reality. Fan engagement in the pac 12 is low. There are plenty of photos of half empty pac-12 stadiums during the season. Media market? It's mainly Seattle and the Bay area, but again, that doesn't matter much when fan engagement is low, especially in the bay area schools.

Happy to be wrong but I don't believe for a second that the pac-12 gets a better deal than the Big 12. Even if we have better underlying "assets", they don't have a Larry Scott to screw them over for the last few years. Who is even anchoring the Pac-12 deal? Are we expecting the CW and apple tv to pony up more money than fox/espn - a team that actually understands this business very well?

Lastly, it's blatantly obvious that we're losers, not chosers at this point. Theres no reason to expect any amazing deal this late in the process

[woundedknees]

Little Sally Sunshine! We've missed you!

[pezsez1]

Lastly, it's blatantly obvious that we're losers, not chosers at this point. Theres no reason to expect any amazing deal this late in the process

Wait and see. None of us know. The Pac-12 presidents though have seemed pretty confident that we'd beat the Big-12 and nobody has jumped ship.

I think when this is done we'll be fine and the Big-12 will look pretty silly.

[DuckMastaFunk]

Media market? It's mainly Seattle and the Bay area, .

Bay Area, Seattle, Phoenix, Denver, Portland, and SLC are all top 30 media markets.

Just FYI.

[pezsez1]

Here's what should happen:

1: Oregon goes all-in with a major streaming service.

2: Uncle Phil buys all the streaming services and unites them under a single payment option.

3: Cable TV dies and the Pac-12 is the new king of college football.

[squintsdd]

Here's what should happen:

1: Oregon goes all-in with a major streaming service.

2: Uncle Phil buys all the streaming services and unites them under a single payment option.

3: Cable TV dies and the Pac-12 is the new king of college football.

4. Uncle Phil's united streaming service becomes the new cable tv market

5. Money is king and we're eventually right back where we started.

[pezsez1]

5. Money is king and we're eventually right back where we started.

Yep, but we'd get in on the ground floor and be guaranteed a seat at the table.

It is funny though because it's only a matter of time before streaming platforms really do take over (and kill) cable, and it's probably not too far away. More sports leagues/franchises are either launching their own streaming products or joining up with services. I don't watch TV news and have never really watched sitcoms so I'm about ready to cut it loose myself. Sports are the only reason I still subscribe.

[justin_f]

5. Money is king and we're eventually right back where we started.

Yep, but we'd get in on the ground floor and be guaranteed a seat at the table.

It is funny though because it's only a matter of time before streaming platforms really do take over (and kill) cable, and it's probably not too far away. More sports leagues/franchises are either launching their own streaming products or joining up with services. I don't watch TV news and have never really watched sitcoms so I'm about ready to cut it loose myself. Sports are the only reason I still subscribe.

Hope not, I hate streaming sports. I find it frustrating

[pezsez1]

Hope not, I hate streaming sports. I find it frustrating

I find the production quality of streaming to be so much better than cable. Also, with streaming, you could say goodbye to missing the start of your game because the end of another one is on the same channel. Much more content freedom & easier to opt in and out of services.