pezsez1 wrote:This just means the Pac would play without SDSU in the 2024 season and then they'd join afterward.
Canzano speculating/reporting that three Pac schools are not on board with expansion. He thinks it is UO, UW and Utah.
The idea is that adding SD and SMU gets you maybe 2 million more per year per school in TV revenue, while unequal revenue sharing for playoffs could net schools in the playoff 10 million+ per game. Much more money is to be had by getting in the playoff. Why would Oregon want to have a new competitor for SoCal recruits in SDSU and unleash the absolute monster that the SMU Boulevard Collective is?
I kind of agree. Oregon is better off as a big fish in a small pond. If the argument is that the Pac eventually collapses without new blood/strength - that's not a big deal to Oregon. We are a valuable enough property that some conference will be interested in snatching us up if the Pac goes away.
pezsez1 wrote:This just means the Pac would play without SDSU in the 2024 season and then they'd join afterward.
Canzano speculating/reporting that three Pac schools are not on board with expansion. He thinks it is UO, UW and Utah.
The idea is that adding SD and SMU gets you maybe 2 million more per year per school in TV revenue, while unequal revenue sharing for playoffs could net schools in the playoff 10 million+ per game. Much more money is to be had by getting in the playoff. Why would Oregon want to have a new competitor for SoCal recruits in SDSU and unleash the absolute monster that the SMU Boulevard Collective is?
I kind of agree. Oregon is better off as a big fish in a small pond. If the argument is that the Pac eventually collapses without new blood/strength - that's not a big deal to Oregon. We are a valuable enough property that some conference will be interested in snatching us up if the Pac goes away.
The way things are headed with conference expansion, another conference will pick up sdsu and get that TV and recruiting market. It may workout for a short time, but as soon as another power 5 conference adds them, it could backfire.
pezsez1 wrote:This just means the Pac would play without SDSU in the 2024 season and then they'd join afterward.
Canzano speculating/reporting that three Pac schools are not on board with expansion. He thinks it is UO, UW and Utah.
The idea is that adding SD and SMU gets you maybe 2 million more per year per school in TV revenue, while unequal revenue sharing for playoffs could net schools in the playoff 10 million+ per game. Much more money is to be had by getting in the playoff. Why would Oregon want to have a new competitor for SoCal recruits in SDSU and unleash the absolute monster that the SMU Boulevard Collective is?
I kind of agree. Oregon is better off as a big fish in a small pond. If the argument is that the Pac eventually collapses without new blood/strength - that's not a big deal to Oregon. We are a valuable enough property that some conference will be interested in snatching us up if the Pac goes away.
That can’t be right. Pez said we would be happy to pay SDSU 23 mill they would owe the MWC, because they would add so much to the conference.
That can’t be right. Pez said we would be happy to pay SDSU 23 mill they would owe the MWC, because they would add so much to the conference.
That was just me guessing -- kind of like those Big-12 bloggers that you've quoted -- not the well-sourced reporting of JC.
Just sit back and wait for the deal.
The same guy who set out to ruin Bellottis wife over her stuff, that had nothing to do with football. and got himself kicked out of the press box a couple times because of it? The guy who for years spread his moral superiority, only to be found screwing around himself? That’s your big journalist you want to ride with? When/if a deal comes, I’ll be shocked if it’s more than the Big 12 deal.
DuckMastaFunk wrote:Why would Oregon want to have a new competitor for SoCal recruits in SDSU and unleash the absolute monster that the SMU Boulevard Collective is?
The new Boulevard Collective, announced over the weekend, will pay SMU football and men’s basketball players $36,000 each, for a total of $3.5 million, a source told The Athletic. The collective’s website did not list a number publicly.
I'm definitely really worried about SMU's absolute monster there all right.
There is a major reason to expand back to 12 and that is that it will make it easier to eliminate a 9 game conf schedule and reduce it to 8. If we stick at 10, every team plays everyone, every year and the league will again lose out on the prime playoff seeding because we beat up on each other.
For no reason should Oregon or Washington fear anything about the Aztecs or the Mustangs. It's comical actually because of the sheer insecurity that would be necessary for that concern to pop up.
I'm riding with journalists who've been correct so far. That pretty much rules out everyone you've quoted from Twitter.
He’s said the deal is getting signs soon since January. Is that really being right? It’s clear he’s a mouthpiece for OS and WSU. Who both would be in bad shape if the conference falls apart.
DuckMastaFunk wrote:Why would Oregon want to have a new competitor for SoCal recruits in SDSU and unleash the absolute monster that the SMU Boulevard Collective is?
The new Boulevard Collective, announced over the weekend, will pay SMU football and men’s basketball players $36,000 each, for a total of $3.5 million, a source told The Athletic. The collective’s website did not list a number publicly.
I'm definitely really worried about SMU's absolute monster there all right.
There is a major reason to expand back to 12 and that is that it will make it easier to eliminate a 9 game conf schedule and reduce it to 8. If we stick at 10, every team plays everyone, every year and the league will again lose out on the prime playoff seeding because we beat up on each other.
For no reason should Oregon or Washington fear anything about the Aztecs or the Mustangs. It's comical actually because of the sheer insecurity that would be necessary for that concern to pop up.
You can laugh, but SMU boosters have considerable resources and getting back into a major conference would likely result in high levels of donor motivation.
They aren't getting 5 star guys to come play in the AAC, so paying $36,000 per player is the smart play as it puts them way above their AAC competition. That doesn't mean they don't have more money should 4 and 5 star guys come into the picture.
I agree the SMU isn't a threat now. We should roll them for 3-5 years regardless. After that, I don't feel confident that they couldn't compete with Oregon. (is that a double or triple negative, lol!)
DuckMastaFunk wrote:Why would Oregon want to have a new competitor for SoCal recruits in SDSU and unleash the absolute monster that the SMU Boulevard Collective is?
The new Boulevard Collective, announced over the weekend, will pay SMU football and men’s basketball players $36,000 each, for a total of $3.5 million, a source told The Athletic. The collective’s website did not list a number publicly.
I'm definitely really worried about SMU's absolute monster there all right.
There is a major reason to expand back to 12 and that is that it will make it easier to eliminate a 9 game conf schedule and reduce it to 8. If we stick at 10, every team plays everyone, every year and the league will again lose out on the prime playoff seeding because we beat up on each other.
For no reason should Oregon or Washington fear anything about the Aztecs or the Mustangs. It's comical actually because of the sheer insecurity that would be necessary for that concern to pop up.
You can laugh, but SMU boosters have considerable resources and getting back into a major conference would likely result in high levels of donor motivation.
They aren't getting 5 star guys to come play in the AAC, so paying $36,000 per player is the smart play as it puts them way above their AAC competition. That doesn't mean they don't have more money should 4 and 5 star guys come into the picture.
I agree the SMU isn't a threat now. We should roll them for 3-5 years regardless. After that, I don't feel confident that they couldn't compete with Oregon. (is that a double or triple negative, lol!)
The AAC got a 20mill deal, at best the pac will get 25mil. Not sure you can label the pac a major conference anymore.
