Pac-12/Big 10/Big 12 Realignment

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Oregon and Washington to the B1G would be cool if it meant a trip to LA every year, for recruiting reasons.

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Do all the Arizona rumors link back to just one source or am I missing something? Same with that "four schools to B1G" rumor, all I can find to substantiate that is something on Barstool Sports. The Athlon article just cites that report without any of its own work.

Scheer has been throwing crap against the wall for the past year and hoping something sticks because he hates the Pac-12. The Athlon/Barstool rumors are just that as there's no track record for breaking news like this.

[greenyellow]

Some actual movement.

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[pezsez1]

To clarify, JC didn't report that it's absolutely within 48 hours... he said he's heard timeframes from 24 to 72 hours, so he's "setting the over/under at 48 hours — noon on Wednesday."

What's important though is this timeframe was independently verified by The Athletic.

If I had to bet on what's going on, I'd bet Arizona is ready to leave for the Big-12 (just as Colorado was) but is waiting to see whether it's worth doing so given the upcoming Pac-12 (9?) media agreement.

I also wonder whether the deal might surprise some folks despite Colorado's departure. We know this is going to be heavy on streaming, and we know streamers (such as Apple TV) are eager to break into the sports marketplace. Given that all the other major college football conferences are tied up with cable providers (Fox, ESPN, CBS, etc) the Pac-12 is really the only game left in town. I would think that Apple or Amazon (whoever the buyer is) would be pretty motivated to put forth a deal that will keep the conference as intact as possible as to not water down its own product. Low ball too much, and Arizona (and others) probably bolt and suddenly you've lost your chance at the market. I'd think that has to matter and might be how the commissioner is able to leverage a media deal so soon after Colorado's exit.

Again, should be a really interesting few days. I'm glad actual football is starting soon.

[DuckzRule]

Some actual movement.

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Good, hopefully all this mania ends so I'm finally at peace and know what Oregon's future is, even if we don't go to another conference.

[Phalanx]

Do all the Arizona rumors link back to just one source or am I missing something? Same with that "four schools to B1G" rumor, all I can find to substantiate that is something on Barstool Sports. The Athlon article just cites that report without any of its own work.

Scheer has been throwing crap against the wall for the past year and hoping something sticks because he hates the Pac-12. The Athlon/Barstool rumors are just that as there's no track record for breaking news like this.

I want to hear any and all rumors, and I assume others do as well. The athlon article says it's just a rumor in the title, so I think most people understand that when reading.

[pezsez1]

Don't get me wrong Phalanx, I love the rumors too. Just seeing so much chatter as if things are done deals and wondering what I might be missing.

[buckmarkduck]

To clarify, JC didn't report that it's absolutely within 48 hours... he said he's heard timeframes from 24 to 72 hours, so he's "setting the over/under at 48 hours — noon on Wednesday."

What's important though is this timeframe was independently verified by The Athletic.

If I had to bet on what's going on, I'd bet Arizona is ready to leave for the Big-12 (just as Colorado was) but is waiting to see whether it's worth doing so given the upcoming Pac-12 (9?) media agreement.

I also wonder whether the deal might surprise some folks despite Colorado's departure. We know this is going to be heavy on streaming, and we know streamers (such as Apple TV) are eager to break into the sports marketplace. Given that all the other major college football conferences are tied up with cable providers (Fox, ESPN, CBS, etc) the Pac-12 is really the only game left in town. I would think that Apple or Amazon (whoever the buyer is) would be pretty motivated to put forth a deal that will keep the conference as intact as possible as to not water down its own product. Low ball too much, and Arizona (and others) probably bolt and suddenly you've lost your chance at the market. I'd think that has to matter and might be how the commissioner is able to leverage a media deal so soon after Colorado's exit.

Again, should be a really interesting few days. I'm glad actual football is starting soon.

21.7mill super awesome deal. We should jump on it. Huge up grade from before, man was I wrong, JC has been on point. BTW ESPN offer with CU was $9mill a year per team.

[pezsez1]

Where has the dollar amount of the media deal been reported?

I found one blog post that sites "a college football insider" (no name or link to said insider) and nothing more.

[Phalanx]

Wow, disappointing if true.

[buckmarkduck]

Where has the dollar amount of the media deal been reported?

I found one blog post that sites "a college football insider" (no name or link to said insider) and nothing more.

That’s what I was told from someone inside the AD.

But here is what GS is hearing.

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[Duck07]

A ~10.5M difference is likely enough to get the corner schools to leave for the Big 12 because their travel will be the same or reduced.

Unless there is some clause that boosts that 20M based on streaming views, it would seem the Conference is dead and has been a dead-man-walking since the LA exodus.

Yaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy.

[pezsez1]

I think it's just another Big-12 troll rumor at this point. If that news were real, then a real sports outlet or a known journalist with proven insider connections would have reported it first.

Also, I can't see the Pac-12 commish rushing to present a media deal that would almost certainly cause his conference to implode. Just doesn't seem to line up with reality. Also I can't see why Apple would even make an offer that would effectively be a humiliating non-starter for everyone involved.

My opinion is the deal will be smaller than the Big-12's $32 mil/school because of the loss of Colorado, but not so much less that schools feel the need to bolt. I think it will be just enough for Pac-12 schools to feel good about staying home.

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if Arizona left, but by now the comissioner must know what each school needs to stay put, and he wouldn't be presenting a deal that didn't meet those needs. I predict a deal followed by pretty rapid expansion to backfill losses and shift the narrative. A 10-team conference that's headlined by Oregon, Washington and Utah -- with a middle tier of Oregon State, Stanford, Cal, and ASU -- and rounded out by WSU (which is usually better than average), an up-and-coming SDSU team, and perhaps an invigorated SMU fanbase would be as formidable (or morseso) than the Big-12 or ACC. May not be Oregon's forever home but would definitely do the job until the next media rights cycle.

Re: The added tweets... still don't see anything really credible there on the media deal front. No independently verified reporting, which is pretty crucial for me to take anything seriously.

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I wouldn't put too much into the numbers as they're almost exactly the same figures Scheer and a few other Big 12 "insiders" have been pushing about the last year. Part of the issue most people should have with Oregon joining the Big 12 is their grant of rights that last through 2111 and penalty for any exiting team to pay 2 years worth of revenue. If Oregon eventually hopes to move to the Big 10, it'd almost be best to stay in the Pac-12 taking less and then being able to leave in the next few years for almost nothing instead of paying 60M+ to leave the Big 12.

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Not much is known what will be talked about but Arizona is having a regents meeting tomorrow.

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