pezsez1 wrote:Phalanx, why do you feel the need to make right-wing political swipes in a football thread? Take that to out-of-topic. It should be a nice break from talking about that anonymous Florida man being indicted again.
Now, back to things with actual substance.
That SI story is extremely compelling, especially with that second source. An offer would need to take shape fast for this to happen now.
Fauci isn't a politician, just a liar, so it makes sense.
Phalanx wrote:Kind of wonder how USC and UCLA feel about these reports. The break from the Pac was accomplished largely by pressure from rich donors, and one of the rumored reasons was that they were tired of getting hammered on the recruiting trail by Oregon for kids in their backyard. Imagine going from playing Oregon only once every few years back to every year.
On the other hand, Kim at Dawgman thinks that USC and UCLA are lobbying on behalf of UW and Oregon to get in. So who knows (I don't think Kim has any inside info, so no need to wax on about that).
I doubt that rumor is true. It would make zero sense to leave because Oregon was raiding California, just to go to another conference and give Ohio State, Penn state, and Michigan increased access to their recruiting grounds. Besides, Oregon is already well established in Southern California. Leaving for a different conference really won't change much, if anything at all.
There are potential headwinds for the additions. USC had been a strong opponent of allowing other West Coast schools into the Big Ten under former athletic director Mike Bohn, as a key part of USC's initial strategy entering the league was to keep other western schools out of the Los Angeles recruiting market.
pezsez1 wrote:Phalanx, why do you feel the need to make right-wing political swipes in a football thread? Take that to out-of-topic. It should be a nice break from talking about that anonymous Florida man being indicted again.
Now, back to things with actual substance.
That SI story is extremely compelling, especially with that second source. An offer would need to take shape fast for this to happen now.
Fauci isn't a politician, just a liar, so it makes sense.
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Please explain what Fauci has to do with college football realignment. Just in case you weren’t aware, this is not the place for politics .
Phalanx wrote:Kind of wonder how USC and UCLA feel about these reports. The break from the Pac was accomplished largely by pressure from rich donors, and one of the rumored reasons was that they were tired of getting hammered on the recruiting trail by Oregon for kids in their backyard. Imagine going from playing Oregon only once every few years back to every year.
On the other hand, Kim at Dawgman thinks that USC and UCLA are lobbying on behalf of UW and Oregon to get in. So who knows (I don't think Kim has any inside info, so no need to wax on about that).
I doubt that rumor is true. It would make zero sense to leave because Oregon was raiding California, just to go to another conference and give Ohio State, Penn state, and Michigan increased access to their recruiting grounds. Besides, Oregon is already well established in Southern California. Leaving for a different conference really won't change much, if anything at all.
There are potential headwinds for the additions. USC had been a strong opponent of allowing other West Coast schools into the Big Ten under former athletic director Mike Bohn, as a key part of USC's initial strategy entering the league was to keep other western schools out of the Los Angeles recruiting market.
Hint: 'other western schools' is code for 'Oregon'
I never said the rumors weren't there, I just said I doubt they're true. How many of these rumors that we're all hearing do you actually believe are true?
Arizona has another regents meeting on Thursday with both presidents of ASU and UA appearing. Might actually hear some more movement and decisions being made.
Never thought I'd be saying this, but I'm rooting for the AZ schools to drive the blade through. This Big 10 development is far too perfect, like a gift from the football gods. It needs to happen.
chapelhillduck wrote:Rumor floating around that it might be UW and Stanford to B10….
Which….worst case scenario
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Sadly I could see that happening, I’m definitely afraid of that, Fox seems obsessed with locations, Eugene isn’t much, but Seattle and Bay Area are, even though those two teams combined don’t bring in the views Oregon does. I have to think the B1G executives are smart enough to realize this and will include Oregon. Not like Portland is a small market and Portland is largely ducks.
yeah, you'd pretty much have to believe one or the other, since Oracle says the T.V. deals are all worked out for Oregon. Guess we'll see if either are right.
Getting boxed out by Washington and Stanford would be the ultimate worse-case scenario. Wouldn't completely surprise me either since Fox allegedly told the Big 10 to take USC instead of us last year.
Important to remember though that UofO's cable market is Portland, not Eugene, and the Portland media market is 25th nationally. Definitely not as big as the Bay Area, but not insignificant and definitely a much more attractive national brand. Cable companies place such a massive value on footprint size though so that's always the danger.
Hopefully the B1G has the sense to just add all four. The timing is perfect.
A lot of this movement is dependent on the Big 12 finding the money to add Arizona, ASU, and Utah. They supposedly have the money from Fox/ESPN for 14 teams but anything over that might be a stretch.
A lot of this movement is dependent on the Big 12 finding the money to add Arizona, ASU, and Utah. They supposedly have the money from Fox/ESPN for 14 teams but anything over that might be a stretch.
Worst-case scenario would be those three schools going to the B-12 and UW/Stanford going to the B1G, leaving us alone with Cal, OSU and WSU.
I mean, I guess we'd go to the playoff every year until the seeding is changed? But damn, not much of a future there.
A lot of this movement is dependent on the Big 12 finding the money to add Arizona, ASU, and Utah. They supposedly have the money from Fox/ESPN for 14 teams but anything over that might be a stretch.
Worst-case scenario would be those three schools going to the B-12 and UW/Stanford going to the B1G, leaving us alone with Cal, OSU and WSU.
I mean, I guess we'd go to the playoff every year until the seeding is changed? But damn, not much of a future there.
There's just so many variables right now and issues in each conference that I don't think anyone can really predict where everything settles. I think if Oregon gets left in the Pac-12 with UW, they can probably survive even with a severely reduced media deal for the next 5 years until the Big Ten likely comes calling again.
