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Can someone please aggregate all of John Canzano's takes about conference realignment from the last 18 months?
If you were to honestly go back and do this objectively, you'd find he actually wasn't really wrong about many things -- mostly because he simply reported what he was being told, not just saying what he thought would happen. (Also worth noting that he recently said his sources were at least half of the remaining presidents, not just OSU and WSU.)

But, if you look at the overall themes of what he reported, they were:

1. The remaining presidents were united.
2. The remaining presidents were waiting to see a deal.
3. The remaining presidents wanted the Pac to survive.
4. The deal was taking longer because of the involvement of streaming partners.

The first three points turned out to be true. For the past year, while rumors consistently broke that the four-corner schools were just days or weeks away from defecting (even as those ADs/presidents took to twitter to say otherwise), JC didn't run with those rumors.

What happened was Colorado got antsy and bolted to the Big-12, which forced the commissioner to reveal his best-possible deal, and it clealry wasn't what he'd been promising to the remaining presidents.

Then, the damn broke, and here we are.

It also turns out that some of the Big-12 mouthpieces were also right about some things. Like Colorado. Yes, Colorado clearly wanted to stay in the Pac, but it was also preparing a landing spot in the Big-12. Yes, Oregon had been vetted by the B1G, but Canzano/Wilner/others were also correct that 1) no invite was on the table and 2) the B1G wasn't interested in further expansion. That only changed over the past week after the damn broke.

The wild, rapidly shifting landscape over the past two weeks doesn't apply to the previous 14 months. The conference would have died immediatley after USC/UCLA left if that were true.
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no more gameday but i imagine big game saturday is ready to come to eugene now
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And there was this incredibly delightful article:

https://www.latimes.com/sports/usc/stor ... on-big-ten
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How do y'all think USC will react to the news?
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DuckzRule wrote:How do y'all think USC will react to the news?
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Duck07 wrote:no more gameday but i imagine big game saturday is ready to come to eugene now

ESPN has been going downhill for awhile now. Not a big loss if game day won’t go to Fox affiliate schools. Heard they are planning to go all subscription based on 2 years, don’t know how that will work out for them.
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ESPN has been going downhill for awhile now. Not a big loss if game day won’t go to Fox affiliate schools.
GameDay and late-night Sportscenter are my only reasons for watching ESPN nowadays. The morning programming is more clown show than commentary. Fox Sports really Pac'd ESPN over the past couple years.
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I hate this.
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Has anyone heard if Oregon took the half-share after all?
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pezsez1 wrote:
ESPN has been going downhill for awhile now. Not a big loss if game day won’t go to Fox affiliate schools.
GameDay and late-night Sportscenter are my only reasons for watching ESPN nowadays. The morning programming is more clown show than commentary. Fox Sports really Pac'd ESPN over the past couple years.

Gameday will probably be better this year, being they dumped that *sshat Pollock.
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frogsnouts wrote:If this is all official, awesome. Now let's hope they find the money for Stanford (and Cal...but if they could get Notre Dame that would be even more magical). Call up Corvallis and schedule games with them for the next 50 years, and I'll be about as content as possible. We've got games against Boise State (x3), North Dakota State, Utah State (x3) in the near future. I just don't buy that Oregon State can't fill those types of games on the schedule moving forward. If we can play Boise State for zero reward, I vote we play the Beavers to at least make it fun.
While I agree with your comment on nothing to gain by playing Boise State, I want another crack at them. I currently live in Boise and they will forever trash Oregon because they’ve owned us on the field. I so badly want revenge.
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Brock Huard said this morning that Fox offered the pac 12 a way better deal back before we decided to start up the P12N. Said they even offered to pay for offices in LA, and basically treat the P12 the way that ESPN has treated the SEC. Remeber the P12 famously rented the most expensive offices they could find in San Francisco, and the p12n was a disaster. The idiot Scott and the “ceo” group presidents said no, we can do better on our own.

Around the same time Texas and OU also wanted to come out west, but again Scott and the stuck up presidents of the p12 told them absolutely no chance we let them have a Longhorn network, so no thanks to two blue bloods.
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Are we just going to ignore that the most reliable source in all of this was the Brutus buckeye social media account.

Not 1, but 2 random posts with puddles in the last 2 weeks

He was telling us all along
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DuckMastaFunk wrote:
Alan wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote:
Alan wrote:
greenyellow wrote:RIP Pac-12. You had your chances but blew it way too often.

I am hoping the remaining PAC teams can still get teams to join and expand. As one of the few Beavers fans here I think this I really improves the chances for the Beavs to make the playoffs. Not saying they will soon or often but they will be some more recognized as a Boise State type team.
Take leftover Pac teams and combine with top 6 Mountain west teams.
I do think the pack can survive, I believe Utah will jump to Big 12, but as you said there seems to be plenty of teams to chose from, mountain west, SMU, SDS, SJS….. no doubt the pac will limp for a couple of years but they can survive.
With no automatic bid, how is the PAC better than the Mountain West? Why would a MW school pay $16 million to opt out to get in to the PAC? More likely the last 4 pac schools join the MW. The 4 can vote unanimously to disband (I believe a unanimous vote is needed) then there’s no exit penalty.

Who says no automatic bids? Other than one tweet posted on this thread? Simply another of the 12,385 rumors posted so far. It will be another waiting game to see what happens with the remaining PAC teams, including Utah and ASU, although I firmly believe they are gone to Big 12 soon.
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So what’s the over all feel over here y’all? Excited about the move or no? Personally I think it is good for the program, you’ll be playing more prime time games
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