Pac-12/Big 10/Big 12 Realignment

[Alan]

Any rumblings of the four teams left joining the ACC?

[Duck07]

Another example of how “government” is drunk with power and wanting more. Hey Salem, it’s none of your f'ing business what conference the Ducks play in!

worse, the uo even preempted this move with the specific ors statutes; she doesn't know the law

[whosyourwally]

Another example of how “people with status/wealth, whether in the corporate world (Fox/NCAA) or government” are drunk with power and wanting more. Hey Salem, it’s none of your f'ing business what conference the Ducks play in!

Fixed for you. People are taking any and every opportunity to spew politics on this board these days. Exhausting.

You guys want a one dimensional board dominated by a single line of thought, keep it up.


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[5$]

Another example of how “people with status/wealth, whether in the corporate world (Fox/NCAA) or government” are drunk with power and wanting more. Hey Salem, it’s none of your f'ing business what conference the Ducks play in!

Fixed for you. People are taking any and every opportunity to spew politics on this board these days. Exhausting.

You guys want a one dimensional board dominated by a single line of thought, keep it up.


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Vote NO on Issue 1!

[UofDuck]

I just disagree that it is somehow Oregon's responsibility to find a conference for Oregon State.

I agree with you there and never said otherwise.

Nothing wrong with Oregon wanting to keep the rivalry alive, but now just isn't the best time to say that. It's very much a "but we can still be friends" kind of thing. Right now, most OSU fans (and probably school employees/admins/etc) probably just want to tell us to pound sand, and we shouldn't blame them. Most of us would feel the exact same way if the tables were turned.

The Ducks absolutely did the right thing by jumping to the B1G, but in doing so we also hung OSU out to dry and possibly doomed them to football irrelevance -- probably stings even more now that they're actually good again with a shiny new stadium.

Re: The comment below, I feel OSU and WSU are overall pretty equal... OSU definitely better right now and I think they've done more with facilities upgrades. I'm sure WSU fans are hurting right now too... it's honestly complete radio silence from all of my Beaver & Cougar friends on social media. I'm assuming they're either in shock or simply too angry to say anything.

I’d argue that we absolutely did not hang OSU out to dry. The PAC leadership did. Our hand was forced to bail off a sinking ship and we took the most attractive life-line offered. We did not hang anyone out to dry. Purely self preservation.

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[pezsez1]

I’d argue that we absolutely did not hang OSU out to dry. The PAC leadership did.

I agree with you. It's mostly semantics. Ultimately, our decision did harm OSU. That is undeniable. But we made the only decision we could to spare ourselves from potentially the same fate. And it was bad leadership that put us and others in that position.

[Zyme]

I hate this for OSU, but this was a time to look after #1

[Alan]

The way I look at it is USC and UCLA jumped ship for more money, at that point six other teams started making plans because they knew it could get bad. The six hung in with the PAC for several months but the writing was on the wall. Time to put their plans in motion, four teams did not plan……

[greenyellow]

Oregon and UW are essentially getting half shares for the first 6 years but will receive money from other revenue streams worth $10M+ a year. That'll end up being a little bit more than the forecasted $38-39M they'll receive from the 2022-23 season.

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[Phalanx]

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Too soon?

[ducks5ever]

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Might be a dumb question but why was the 5 million sub level unrealistic? Pac12 networks now is estimated to have around 14 million subs. USC/UCLA fans dont make up half that, and even if they did, the conference would still hit the figure. Tbh, that wasn't too bad of a deal but what do i know. I don't see why they would have issues hitting the 1.7 million subs. Those benchmarks feel too low.

Of course, there was still a long list of issues with the pac even if the deal were signed. In addition, perhaps the conference would be on the hook for production costs and that would eat into revenues

[ducks5ever]

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Might be a dumb question but why was the 5 million sub level unrealistic? Pac12 networks now is estimated to have around 14 million subs. USC/UCLA fans dont make up half that, and even if they did, the conference would still hit the figure. Tbh, that wasn't too bad of a deal but what do i know. I don't see why they would have issues hitting the 1.7 million subs. Those benchmarks feel too low.

Of course, there was still a long list of issues with the pac even if the deal were signed. In addition, perhaps the conference would be on the hook for production costs and that would eat into revenues

On second thought, apple tv only has ~25 millions subs so that's probably half the reason

[Zyme]

https://pac-4.com/