Oregon's DL - Heights and Weights

[ducks5ever]

The thing that stands out to me most is the size of the edge players on LSU, UA and Georgia. They're all lighter than we have at Oregon. Is that intentional? Are they trying to be faster off the edges? If so, why wouldn't Dan Lanning (and Tosh) take a similar approach? That is, unless the guys we have offer similar speed.

Thoughts?

Apples vs oranges. Not all big men move equally well at X weight. Of course, maybe our guys are too bulky and slow - can't rule that out. But it's not a given

[lmduck]

Couple observations:

-Long gone are the days where Oregon has virtually no 300 pounders to man the middle on defense.
-Weight doesn't distinguish the power southeastern teams from Oregon or washington
-Florida has some big, big boys
-washington has ample size and talent on the DL to compete nationally. I almost forgot Jacob Bandes (high 4*) was there, and he's not even a starter
-If USC didn't get transfers in this offseason, their DL would be absolutely pathetic, both in size and talent. An injury or two is going to decimate them up front.

SC supposedly lost one of their big DL guys for the year. Saw it on twitter.


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[GrantDuck]

Due to covid stuff, UW still has a bunch of dudes from the end of the Peter-man era.

Will be interesting to see what happens with DeBoer once it's only local 4*s, 3* and transfer guys in his front 7.

[GrantDuck]

And all the size is great, but I'll take a quick smart guy like Nick Reed at the college level over a 280lb end if he's getting 13 sacks.

Put another way, let us see it in the QB sacks/hurries #'s.

[Duck07]

And all the size is great, but I'll take a quick smart guy like Nick Reed at the college level over a 280lb end if he's getting 13 sacks.

Put another way, let us see it in the QB sacks/hurries #'s.

Yeah, I'll take 2 years of having the greatest DB group in Oregon history to help out the pass rush too. Reed was closer to a Wide 9 guy than a DE in Lanning's scheme so no, I wouldn't substitute Dorlus for Reed, at all.

Further, do you really believe last year was the greatest pass-blocking OL in Oregon history? Or did Nix getting the ball out so consistently fast kill any chance of pass-rush? If its the latter, why would focusing solely on pass rush stats be the best way to gauge the improvement of the defense?

[GrantDuck]

And all the size is great, but I'll take a quick smart guy like Nick Reed at the college level over a 280lb end if he's getting 13 sacks.

Put another way, let us see it in the QB sacks/hurries #'s.

Yeah, I'll take 2 years of having the greatest DB group in Oregon history to help out the pass rush too. Reed was closer to a Wide 9 guy than a DE in Lanning's scheme so no, I wouldn't substitute Dorlus for Reed, at all.

Further, do you really believe last year was the greatest pass-blocking OL in Oregon history? Or did Nix getting the ball out so consistently fast kill any chance of pass-rush? If its the latter, why would focusing solely on pass rush stats be the best way to gauge the improvement of the defense?

Reed had 25 sacks and 44.5 TFL his last 2 years at Oregon. If you don't want that kind of production on our roster idk what to say. Not saying a great secondary didn't help him or that he was the best DE/Edge ever at Oregon, simply that measurables and *'s doesn't always translate to production(see DJ Johnson).

As to your 2nd question, I think him and Forsyth together was a really great combination for communicating protections and getting the ball out fast. Bo also forces opposing teams to be more safe in their pass rushes with his running skills and cuts down on sacks with his movement as well. So certainly the OL was good(2007 and 2019 were better), but I agree Bo certainly helped and will continue to help the OL with his knowledge and movement.