Wee 1 CFB Talk

[5$]

Too bad it finally occurs when the Pac-12 is in its final year of operating as everyone knows it.

The Pac-12 is a diamond in the rough. If its going to end, do it with all of the pride, dignity, and prestige it can muster. Ending on such a high level would be tremendous for the Conference's legacy.

[Duck07]

Too bad it finally occurs when the Pac-12 is in its final year of operating as everyone knows it.

The Pac-12 is a diamond in the rough. If its going to end, do it with all of the pride, dignity, and prestige it can muster. Ending on such a high level would be tremendous for the Conference's legacy.

The legacy is that all of the Basketball and Football bonus money will be used to absorb the Mtn West and their TV deal. It would make the Mtn West schools an extra few million in the short term while setting themselves up for bigger gains with their TV deal coming up in 2 years along with gaining P5 status.

In the end, I think that Stanford and Cal going to the ACC will be the dumbest move of them all.

USC/UCLA getting full shares is an obvious duh.
Oregon/UW getting half shares still makes up for the travel costs.
CU/Utah/ASU/UA have similar travel costs and make more money.
Stanford/Cal will seemingly make less money once travel is included.

OSU/WSU could have Reser and Martin stadiums debt largely paid off just by remaining the Pac 2 and gaining something like 80M over 2 years from Playoff revenues and another 80M over 6 years from Basketball Tournament revenues.

[buckmarkduck]

Too bad it finally occurs when the Pac-12 is in its final year of operating as everyone knows it.

The Pac-12 is a diamond in the rough. If its going to end, do it with all of the pride, dignity, and prestige it can muster. Ending on such a high level would be tremendous for the Conference's legacy.

The legacy is that all of the Basketball and Football bonus money will be used to absorb the Mtn West and their TV deal. It would make the Mtn West schools an extra few million in the short term while setting themselves up for bigger gains with their TV deal coming up in 2 years along with gaining P5 status.

In the end, I think that Stanford and Cal going to the ACC will be the dumbest move of them all.

USC/UCLA getting full shares is an obvious duh.
Oregon/UW getting half shares still makes up for the travel costs.
CU/Utah/ASU/UA have similar travel costs and make more money.
Stanford/Cal will seemingly make less money once travel is included.

OSU/WSU could have Reser and Martin stadiums debt largely paid off just by remaining the Pac 2 and gaining something like 80M over 2 years from Playoff revenues and another 80M over 6 years from Basketball Tournament revenues.

How is that? OSU and wsu won’t make the playoffs or tournament, so how do they get that money? There is no way the NCAA or other power 4 conferences are allowing is and wsu to add a bunch of bad teams and stay power 5.

[Duck07]

How is that? OSU and wsu won’t make the playoffs or tournament, so how do they get that money? There is no way the NCAA or other power 4 conferences are allowing is and wsu to add a bunch of bad teams and stay power 5.

The Pac 12 (and other confs) are owed back-pay so whoever remains in the Conf gets that money.

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[buckmarkduck]

How is that? OSU and wsu won’t make the playoffs or tournament, so how do they get that money? There is no way the NCAA or other power 4 conferences are allowing is and wsu to add a bunch of bad teams and stay power 5.

The Pac 12 (and other confs) are owed back-pay so whoever remains in the Conf gets that money.

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Except the pac 12 owes comcast. We will see, but this seems like fantasy land where WSU and OSU think they can just not pay them. Also, they won’t be getting any tv money. So even if they can keep some of this money, in the next 10 years they will be down to nothing.

[Duck07]

Except the pac 12 owes comcast. We will see, but this seems like fantasy land where WSU and OSU think they can just not pay them. Also, they won’t be getting any tv money. So even if they can keep some of this money, in the next 10 years they will be down to nothing.

It's 50M, that's 4.2M/school since its safe to assume the overpayments by Comcast led to additional payments to each school that they would each be responsible for. Even if OSU/WSU were on the hook for that whole 50M and regardless of any payments made currently, they'd still each walk away with 100M over 2 years as a Pac 2.

As for the "tv money," if the Pac 2 absorbs the Mtn West and their current TV deal, they're getting something. Then they'd have a new media rights deal in 2 years time and their major debts paid off.

[greenyellow]

Clemson getting their butt whooped by Duke was not something I saw coming. Really looks like DJU wasn't the biggest issue down there.

[StevensTechU]

I thought Duke had a chance, but didn't see a domination happening. ESPN had a story on their main NCAAF page titled "Is Klubnik The Next Great Clemson QB?" Glad they can put that to bed.

It's a Pac-12 vs Southeastern Conference race for best conference in America this year.

[SuperDuck]

I thought Duke had a chance, but didn't see a domination happening. ESPN had a story on their main NCAAF page titled "Is Klubnik The Next Great Clemson QB?" Glad they can put that to bed.

It's a Pac-12 vs Southeastern Conference race for best conference in America this year.

Not to take anything away from Duke, as they played a good game and deserve the win. Still, Clemson hurt themselves several times with their mistakes. They had first and goal twice inside the 5, once from the 1 yard line, and blew both opportunities.

I think Clemson will bounce back and have a decent season, but I can't imagine them beating Florida State at this point.

[buckmarkduck]

Clemson lost that game more than Duke won it. Unforced TO in the red zone, bad qb play ect. And the team energy reminds me of UO 2016.

[lmduck]

Clemson lost that game more than Duke won it. Unforced TO in the red zone, bad qb play ect. And the team energy reminds me of UO 2016.

Buckmark, funny you say that. I said the exact same thing as I was watching last night. Clemson reminded me too of the 2016 DUCKS. Kind of like, we sort of care but not really. Heck Mario may even have a chance against them.

[bellsduck]

After my best sports betting weekend ever
My Week 1 Pac12 Power Rankings
1. Washington - impressive victory against a team that's supposed to be good.

2. Oregon - Couldn't have gone much better, but still a fcs school

3. Colorado - TCU wasn't going to replicate last year, but still, no one really expected a straight up victory.

4. Utah - Florida looked like hot trash, but still impressive.

5. Oregon St - Defense looked good until Butterfield came in, lol. DJU against SJSU looked better than he ever did at Clemson.

6. USC - 2 big wins but defense still giving up a lot. They won't be tested until October. A lot like UO schedule last year, so won't know much truly until then.

7. Washington St. - pretty much what I expected to see from the offense. Let's see what the defense can dial up against a good running team this week.

8. California - After a slow start Cal was dominant. We will learn more this week as they play Auburn at home.

9. Arizona - Been waiting for this team to improve under Fisch. Week opponent but did what they had to do

10. UCLA - underwhelmed watching that game

11. Stanford - fairly easy victory against a bad team

12. Arizona St. - lucky to win against a team they were 30 point favorites against.

[UOducksTK1]

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ha, wow!

[UOducksTK1]

Pac-12 13-0. Who will be the first to breakup the perfect?

[Duck07]

Pac-12 13-0. Who will be the first to breakup the perfect?

Wildcats at Miss St and Cougars at home vs Wisconsin each play at the same time at 430.

Stanford/USC, Auburn AT Cal and Ok State AT ASU each play at 730.

I think Arizona loses first but that would have the PAC at 17-0 with a potential for 19-0 if UCLA and WSU win before UA loses.