#8 Oregon @ #7 Washington (Oct. 14, Sat 12:30 PM ABC)

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OregonFan4Life wrote:The bigger problem to me on the 4th downs was the playcall than the decision to go for it.
Franklin was open on the first play if Nix throws it on his break. Holden was wide open over the middle for at least a first on the 2nd one. If anything, I wish they would have left it in Nix’s hands on 3rd and 2 on the last drive. Felt obvious that Washington was crashing down.
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This is Dan's signature loss and 100% on him. His pride got in the way and kept us from being up 10 and punting rather than going for it and up four with a loss of conversion. My optimism says he's young and will grow and learn from this so I do hope he humbles himself and takes a hard look at the position he put his players in. Maybe those decisions work better in a game at home but in a hostile away environment and the way that game was going those were the wrong calls.
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Alan wrote:
nogerO wrote:I love you Dan but this one is on YOU!
I agree, I really like DL and hope he is around for a long time. But he passed on two easy FG’s which would’ve added 6 to the Duck score and he should have punted on the last 4rth down failure.
I wish he would've kicked the one at the end of the half. It effects nothing except gives them 3 points right before the half. Play calling would've all been the same in the second half. Then when he went for it in the red zone the second time it's a much safer gamble.

That being said, there's a lot of armchair quarterbacks here that suck at even that. Would like to see all of you down on the sidelines making calls. Oregon would likely be 0 - 6 with most of the complainers here down on the sideline
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squintsdd wrote:
Alan wrote:
nogerO wrote:I love you Dan but this one is on YOU!
I agree, I really like DL and hope he is around for a long time. But he passed on two easy FG’s which would’ve added 6 to the Duck score and he should have punted on the last 4rth down failure.
I wish he would've kicked the one at the end of the half. It effects nothing except gives them 3 points right before the half. Play calling would've all been the same in the second half. Then when he went for it in the red zone the second time it's a much safer gamble.

That being said, there's a lot of armchair quarterbacks here that suck at even that. Would like to see all of you down on the sidelines making calls. Oregon would likely be 0 - 6 with most of the complainers here down on the sideline
^^^^This and all the armchair QBs here who get to make decisions from the comfort of their couch and with the advantage of multiple replays.


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Hey, take it easy on the armchair QBs! I'm just saying, we had 3 fourth and short situations, and how many times did Bucky Irving touch the ball? That seems not quite right, doesn't it?
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QuackininBama wrote:Anyone else notice Bo is basically a statue back there this year? 1% running threat. Am I missing something?
Makes sense to me after what happened last year.

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DuckBomb2 wrote:Hey, take it easy on the armchair QBs! I'm just saying, we had 3 fourth and short situations, and how many times did Bucky Irving touch the ball? That seems not quite right, doesn't it?
We also had 3 3rd and short right before the 4th and Bucky/Jordan got it and didn’t convert


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Lots to like in this loss, but kind of ruined for me by the few obvious coaching blunders.

Kicking a FG at the end of the half should have been a no-brainer, and same goes for the next opportunity early in the third. You can't leave those points on the field. Too huge of downsides for coming away with nothing in those moments.

Other big moment for me was our second-to-last-drive on the set of possessions leading up to the failed fourth down. That first play went for little to no gain, and at that point we should have just been running our normal offense and going for a first down. Instead, the coaches got conservative, tried too hard to milk clock, and as a result we put ourselves in a fourth-and-short situation which clearly wasn't our strength in this matchup. Should have just thrown the ball for another set of downs and tried again (hopefully with a better first down play to get things rolling). Would have been nice to just end the game on that drive with victory formation.

I still really like Lanning, and anyone who says "he can't beat Washington" is ridiculous. Clearly, we can beat Washington. That's why this loss stings a bit. We really should have beaten Washington, but we didn't because we chose not to take all the points that were easily there for us. Bad decisions lead to bad outcomes.

I really hope Lanning's had his fill of losing like this and is ready to make an adjustment.


EDIT: Lanning, after the game: "I think this game is 100% on me."

Hopefully this never happens again.
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chapelhillduck wrote:
DuckBomb2 wrote:Hey, take it easy on the armchair QBs! I'm just saying, we had 3 fourth and short situations, and how many times did Bucky Irving touch the ball? That seems not quite right, doesn't it?
We also had 3 3rd and short right before the 4th and Bucky/Jordan got it and didn’t convert


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Yeah but Bucky had an amazing 10 yard run on 2nd and 12 to set that up and the 3rd and 2 run was so conservative and predictably and no RB can do anything against that many defenders, plus Steven Jones got destroyed, can’t wait to upgrade at guard.

It looked like it Bo kept it on 3rd and 2 he would’ve had a lot of field to run, not sure if it was a designed run or a read. If it was a designed run, shame on Stein. If it was a QB read, shame on Bo.
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I understand why you’d want to blame the coaches but they put this team in a position to win multiple times, and they failed. Two different times we were two yards away from ending the game and the players couldn’t execute.

I love Nix but he’s played tight all year and today it was really bad. Dude looked panicked all game and couldn’t make the play when it mattered. Penix, on the other hand, made huge throws in all their big moments. Elite QBs win the game in those moments and Nix couldn’t do it today.
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dthomas=ddixon wrote:I understand why you’d want to blame the coaches but they put this team in a position to win multiple times, and they failed. Two different times we were two yards away from ending the game and the players couldn’t execute.

I love Nix but he’s played tight all year and today it was really bad. Dude looked panicked all game and couldn’t make the play when it mattered. Penix, on the other hand, made huge throws in all their big moments. Elite QBs win the game in those moments and Nix couldn’t do it today.
I 100% agree about Bo, he has regressed mostly because of his vision and decision making. On the first two fourth downs he had Holden wide open and on the 3rd and 2 before the last 4th down it looked like it may have been a QB read and if Bo kept it he would’ve gotten an easy first down. Not sure what’s up with Bo this season, still love him but just not sure why he is struggling to see the field.
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chapelhillduck wrote:
DmoneyDuck wrote:This is why you don't leave points on the board, especially in big games on the road.
Any of those 3 fourth down calls works and we win the game. Sometimes they don’t work, but it builds the program. It fires up everyone on the team. We’ve got a hell of a team that can win a championship now even with the loss.

Calling it now, we win out and make the playoffs


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I get 4th and 1, or 4th and 2. But not 4th and 6.5 at the end of the half.
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OregonFan4Life wrote:
dthomas=ddixon wrote:I understand why you’d want to blame the coaches but they put this team in a position to win multiple times, and they failed. Two different times we were two yards away from ending the game and the players couldn’t execute.

I love Nix but he’s played tight all year and today it was really bad. Dude looked panicked all game and couldn’t make the play when it mattered. Penix, on the other hand, made huge throws in all their big moments. Elite QBs win the game in those moments and Nix couldn’t do it today.
I 100% agree about Bo, he has regressed mostly because of his vision and decision making. On the first two fourth downs he had Holden wide open and on the 3rd and 2 before the last 4th down it looked like it may have been a QB read and if Bo kept it he would’ve gotten an easy first down. Not sure what’s up with Bo this season, still love him but just not sure why he is struggling to see the field.
Observation made on TOS is that he looks like he’s playing not to get hurt. He ran a lot more last year and played much more loose.

I also think Steins system is much more predicated on efficiency and perfect execution. Dillingham’s offense was all about explosives, and failed or negative plays didn’t affect your drives as much. Under Stein we’re constantly having to make plays on 3rd and long. It’s a tight offense and Nix is showing it.
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dthomas=ddixon wrote:
OregonFan4Life wrote:
dthomas=ddixon wrote:I understand why you’d want to blame the coaches but they put this team in a position to win multiple times, and they failed. Two different times we were two yards away from ending the game and the players couldn’t execute.

I love Nix but he’s played tight all year and today it was really bad. Dude looked panicked all game and couldn’t make the play when it mattered. Penix, on the other hand, made huge throws in all their big moments. Elite QBs win the game in those moments and Nix couldn’t do it today.
I 100% agree about Bo, he has regressed mostly because of his vision and decision making. On the first two fourth downs he had Holden wide open and on the 3rd and 2 before the last 4th down it looked like it may have been a QB read and if Bo kept it he would’ve gotten an easy first down. Not sure what’s up with Bo this season, still love him but just not sure why he is struggling to see the field.
Observation made on TOS is that he looks like he’s playing not to get hurt. He ran a lot more last year and played much more loose.

I also think Steins system is much more predicated on efficiency and perfect execution. Dillingham’s offense was all about explosives, and failed or negative plays didn’t affect your drives as much. Under Stein we’re constantly having to make plays on 3rd and long. It’s a tight offense and Nix is showing it.
Gotcha, so Stein needs his players?
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dthomas=ddixon wrote:
OregonFan4Life wrote:
dthomas=ddixon wrote:I understand why you’d want to blame the coaches but they put this team in a position to win multiple times, and they failed. Two different times we were two yards away from ending the game and the players couldn’t execute.

I love Nix but he’s played tight all year and today it was really bad. Dude looked panicked all game and couldn’t make the play when it mattered. Penix, on the other hand, made huge throws in all their big moments. Elite QBs win the game in those moments and Nix couldn’t do it today.
I 100% agree about Bo, he has regressed mostly because of his vision and decision making. On the first two fourth downs he had Holden wide open and on the 3rd and 2 before the last 4th down it looked like it may have been a QB read and if Bo kept it he would’ve gotten an easy first down. Not sure what’s up with Bo this season, still love him but just not sure why he is struggling to see the field.
Observation made on TOS is that he looks like he’s playing not to get hurt. He ran a lot more last year and played much more loose.

I also think Steins system is much more predicated on efficiency and perfect execution. Dillingham’s offense was all about explosives, and failed or negative plays didn’t affect your drives as much. Under Stein we’re constantly having to make plays on 3rd and long. It’s a tight offense and Nix is showing it.
He hurt his calf or something else lower leg early in the year, he hasn't looked the same since, even in the pocket.
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