#8 Oregon @ #7 Washington (Oct. 14, Sat 12:30 PM ABC)

[droop10]

This is why you don't leave points on the board, especially in big games on the road.

Any of those 3 fourth down calls works and we win the game. Sometimes they don’t work, but it builds the program. It fires up everyone on the team. We’ve got a hell of a team that can win a championship now even with the loss.

Calling it now, we win out and make the playoffs


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I get 4th and 1, or 4th and 2. But not 4th and 6.5 at the end of the half.

It was 4th and goal at the 3. Not that egregious.

[UofDuck]

Even Lanning now says it was a mistake.

[DmoneyDuck]

Good on him to own up on the error. If I was a member of the defense the past two years, I'd be pretty ticked off. Coach Lanning essentially made the same call last year at Autzen going for it on 4th and short deep in our own territory late WITH Ty Thompson. Granted, our defense is far from lights outs, but they were the reason the game swing in our favor in the second-half. They racked up three or four consecutive stops against UW, including that epic goal-line stand. Pinning UW deep with no timeouts makes for a much more daunting task for their offense ... giving it to them at midfield was practically a lay-up and relieved a lot of the pressure from their end.

[Everythingsducky]

I’m all in on Lanning, but 0-2 to start vs. UW is not a good beginning to the rivalry. They better kick the sh*t out of them in the conference championship.

[OregonFan4Life]

I’m all in on Lanning, but 0-2 to start vs. UW is not a good beginning to the rivalry. They better kick the sh*t out of them in the conference championship.

He’s 0-3 to start off against our rivals, I too believe in Lanning but today definitely once again showed how much he has to learn.

[greenyellow]

As tough as it was to lose to a rival like UW today, I oddly wasn't angry for all that long. In years past, I probably would have miserable to be around for a day or two. They had some rough moments in that game but for the most part, they played a decent game against another top-10 team. I can really only quibble over not taking the FG at the end of the half while being okay with the decisions to go for it on the other 4th downs since those were just undone by poor play selection/execution. They're really no different than many choices they made last year to be aggressive that worked (4th and short against BYU and onside kick against UCLA) and those that didn't (4th and short against UW with Ty at QB and 4th down against OSU deep in their own territory.) I realize the margin for error is now slim to none now but I still believe in this team and coaching staff.

[Phalanx]

I love you Dan but this one is on YOU!

I agree, I really like DL and hope he is around for a long time. But he passed on two easy FG’s which would’ve added 6 to the Duck score and he should have punted on the last 4rth down failure.

Lot of complaining about going for it in this thread, and then banking potential points Lanning didn't get. I feel like there is some strategy you are missing. Going for a TD on 4th and goal and not making it is normally mitigated by the fact that you pin your opponent deep in their own territory. In a high-scoring game, it's often a strong calculated risk, since a field goal doesn't do much for the tally. I have no issue with the second field goal opportunity Lanning passed up, because they took advantage of the ensuing field position to score a touchdown. You can't add 3 points to that touchdown; it's all part of the same sequence. The one he messed up on was at the end of the half, because there was no field position to take advantage of. It was a bad risk/reward, and I imagine he won't do it again in a similar scenario.

As for the 4th down at the end where maybe he should have punted, I also wanted him to punt, but actually, it probably worked out better for the Ducks that he didn't. I think he recognized that his defense was gassed and that Penix was either going to march them down and score a TD or he wouldn't. The fact that they did score so quickly actually gave the Oregon offense a chance to win the game at the end. So I don't think that is a legitimate gripe in retrospect either, just something I disagreed with at the time.

I think Lanning is figuring stuff out and long term, he is going to be a great coach for a long time. There aren't many teams in the country who could have gone into that situation in Seattle, taken the punch in the mouth they gave Oregon at the beginning of the game, and still come back with a chance to win. Lanning deserves a lot of credit for bringing Oregon back to the big time.

[Duck07]

If there's a discussion to be had right now that isn't, I think its about the change in the defense AFTER our CBs went down. From the broadcast angle it sure looked like we switched out to a 2-high shell and then the Front started getting after Penix. Prior to that, we seemed to be playing a 1-high Safety and with 1 less defender deep, it seemed like they moved the ball relatively at will on all 5 of their TD drives.

While it was like 2 plays long, on their final drive it again felt like we were playing a 1-high look and they eviscerated us.

Maybe I'm wrong about the coverages we were running since I only watched the live broadcast angle, but what other explanation for suddenly stopping their offense after the starting CBs went down then the scheme changed. I also recall that Hythloday1 said not to blitz but drop in coverage against Penix. Will be an interesting film review.

[lmduck]

I love you Dan but this one is on YOU!

I agree, I really like DL and hope he is around for a long time. But he passed on two easy FG’s which would’ve added 6 to the Duck score and he should have punted on the last 4rth down failure.

Lot of complaining about going for it in this thread, and then banking potential points Lanning didn't get. I feel like there is some strategy you are missing. Going for a TD on 4th and goal and not making it is normally mitigated by the fact that you pin your opponent deep in their own territory. In a high-scoring game, it's often a strong calculated risk, since a field goal doesn't do much for the tally. I have no issue with the second field goal opportunity Lanning passed up, because they took advantage of the ensuing field position to score a touchdown. You can't add 3 points to that touchdown; it's all part of the same sequence. The one he messed up on was at the end of the half, because there was no field position to take advantage of. It was a bad risk/reward, and I imagine he won't do it again in a similar scenario.

As for the 4th down at the end where maybe he should have punted, I also wanted him to punt, but actually, it probably worked out better for the Ducks that he didn't. I think he recognized that his defense was gassed and that Penix was either going to march them down and score a TD or he wouldn't. The fact that they did score so quickly actually gave the Oregon offense a chance to win the game at the end. So I don't think that is a legitimate gripe in retrospect either, just something I disagreed with at the time.

I think Lanning is figuring stuff out and long term, he is going to be a great coach for a long time. There aren't many teams in the country who could have gone into that situation in Seattle, taken the punch in the mouth they gave Oregon at the beginning of the game, and still come back with a chance to win. Lanning deserves a lot of credit for bringing Oregon back to the big time.

Great points!


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[dthomas=ddixon]

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Schwartz confirming what I felt immediately post game. The plays were there to be made but Nix was panicky and locked up, for whatever reason. Sucks because he was basically perfect in every other way.

[buckmarkduck]

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Schwartz confirming what I felt immediately post game. The plays were there to be made but Nix was panicky and locked up, for whatever reason. Sucks because he was basically perfect in every other way.

On 4th down the UW DE on the backside just shoots in hard, last years Bo would have spotted that and ran right out the back door because no one was left over there and got the first down. Instead he sprints the other way and throws an incomplete pass.

[nogerO]

I love you Dan but this one is on YOU!

I agree, I really like DL and hope he is around for a long time. But he passed on two easy FG’s which would’ve added 6 to the Duck score and he should have punted on the last 4rth down failure.

Lot of complaining about going for it in this thread, and then banking potential points Lanning didn't get. I feel like there is some strategy you are missing. Going for a TD on 4th and goal and not making it is normally mitigated by the fact that you pin your opponent deep in their own territory. In a high-scoring game, it's often a strong calculated risk, since a field goal doesn't do much for the tally. I have no issue with the second field goal opportunity Lanning passed up, because they took advantage of the ensuing field position to score a touchdown. You can't add 3 points to that touchdown; it's all part of the same sequence. The one he messed up on was at the end of the half, because there was no field position to take advantage of. It was a bad risk/reward, and I imagine he won't do it again in a similar scenario.

As for the 4th down at the end where maybe he should have punted, I also wanted him to punt, but actually, it probably worked out better for the Ducks that he didn't. I think he recognized that his defense was gassed and that Penix was either going to march them down and score a TD or he wouldn't. The fact that they did score so quickly actually gave the Oregon offense a chance to win the game at the end. So I don't think that is a legitimate gripe in retrospect either, just something I disagreed with at the time.

I think Lanning is figuring stuff out and long term, he is going to be a great coach for a long time. There aren't many teams in the country who could have gone into that situation in Seattle, taken the punch in the mouth they gave Oregon at the beginning of the game, and still come back with a chance to win. Lanning deserves a lot of credit for bringing Oregon back to the big time.

Lanning admitted it. 6 more point would have helped

[buckmarkduck]

I love you Dan but this one is on YOU!

I agree, I really like DL and hope he is around for a long time. But he passed on two easy FG’s which would’ve added 6 to the Duck score and he should have punted on the last 4rth down failure.

Lot of complaining about going for it in this thread, and then banking potential points Lanning didn't get. I feel like there is some strategy you are missing. Going for a TD on 4th and goal and not making it is normally mitigated by the fact that you pin your opponent deep in their own territory. In a high-scoring game, it's often a strong calculated risk, since a field goal doesn't do much for the tally. I have no issue with the second field goal opportunity Lanning passed up, because they took advantage of the ensuing field position to score a touchdown. You can't add 3 points to that touchdown; it's all part of the same sequence. The one he messed up on was at the end of the half, because there was no field position to take advantage of. It was a bad risk/reward, and I imagine he won't do it again in a similar scenario.

As for the 4th down at the end where maybe he should have punted, I also wanted him to punt, but actually, it probably worked out better for the Ducks that he didn't. I think he recognized that his defense was gassed and that Penix was either going to march them down and score a TD or he wouldn't. The fact that they did score so quickly actually gave the Oregon offense a chance to win the game at the end. So I don't think that is a legitimate gripe in retrospect either, just something I disagreed with at the time.

I think Lanning is figuring stuff out and long term, he is going to be a great coach for a long time. There aren't many teams in the country who could have gone into that situation in Seattle, taken the punch in the mouth they gave Oregon at the beginning of the game, and still come back with a chance to win. Lanning deserves a lot of credit for bringing Oregon back to the big time.

Lanning admitted it. 6 more point would have helped

He was being nice. What did you want him to say? We called the right play but our guys didn’t execute?

[squintsdd]

I love you Dan but this one is on YOU!

I agree, I really like DL and hope he is around for a long time. But he passed on two easy FG’s which would’ve added 6 to the Duck score and he should have punted on the last 4rth down failure.

Lot of complaining about going for it in this thread, and then banking potential points Lanning didn't get. I feel like there is some strategy you are missing. Going for a TD on 4th and goal and not making it is normally mitigated by the fact that you pin your opponent deep in their own territory. In a high-scoring game, it's often a strong calculated risk, since a field goal doesn't do much for the tally. I have no issue with the second field goal opportunity Lanning passed up, because they took advantage of the ensuing field position to score a touchdown. You can't add 3 points to that touchdown; it's all part of the same sequence. The one he messed up on was at the end of the half, because there was no field position to take advantage of. It was a bad risk/reward, and I imagine he won't do it again in a similar scenario.

As for the 4th down at the end where maybe he should have punted, I also wanted him to punt, but actually, it probably worked out better for the Ducks that he didn't. I think he recognized that his defense was gassed and that Penix was either going to march them down and score a TD or he wouldn't. The fact that they did score so quickly actually gave the Oregon offense a chance to win the game at the end. So I don't think that is a legitimate gripe in retrospect either, just something I disagreed with at the time.

I think Lanning is figuring stuff out and long term, he is going to be a great coach for a long time. There aren't many teams in the country who could have gone into that situation in Seattle, taken the punch in the mouth they gave Oregon at the beginning of the game, and still come back with a chance to win. Lanning deserves a lot of credit for bringing Oregon back to the big time.

Lanning admitted it. 6 more point would have helped

He was being nice. What did you want him to say? We called the right play but our guys didn’t execute?

Well, he did say that too

[pudgejeff]

If there's a discussion to be had right now that isn't, I think its about the change in the defense AFTER our CBs went down. From the broadcast angle it sure looked like we switched out to a 2-high shell and then the Front started getting after Penix. Prior to that, we seemed to be playing a 1-high Safety and with 1 less defender deep, it seemed like they moved the ball relatively at will on all 5 of their TD drives.

While it was like 2 plays long, on their final drive it again felt like we were playing a 1-high look and they eviscerated us.

Maybe I'm wrong about the coverages we were running since I only watched the live broadcast angle, but what other explanation for suddenly stopping their offense after the starting CBs went down then the scheme changed. I also recall that Hythloday1 said not to blitz but drop in coverage against Penix. Will be an interesting film review.

The first play on their last drive it’s an INT, some how Evan reads the ball wrong and hugely over runs it. If he just sees and plays the ball correctly it’s a simple int and the game is over.