USC @ #6 Oregon (Nov. 11, Sat 7:30 PM Fox)

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Caleb Williams is more worrying than a "trap game". As we saw vs UW, our secondary doesn't do well on 50/50 balls.

My hope is we get up on them early and they fold. That and the refs actually call holding for once.

UW's WRs are far better than USC's and it's not close.

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[Phalanx]

Caleb Williams is more worrying than a "trap game". As we saw vs UW, our secondary doesn't do well on 50/50 balls.

My hope is we get up on them early and they fold. That and the refs actually call holding for once.

UW's WRs are far better than USC's and it's not close.

Okay, but Williams has 235 more passing yards than Bo does this season. He's passing it to someone. They have a good passing offense -second in the conference. If the Oregon defense has a weakness, it's in the backfield. So it seems natural to be concerned about that.

[OregonFan4Life]

Caleb Williams is more worrying than a "trap game". As we saw vs UW, our secondary doesn't do well on 50/50 balls.

My hope is we get up on them early and they fold. That and the refs actually call holding for once.

UW's WRs are far better than USC's and it's not close.

Okay, but Williams has 235 more passing yards than Bo does this season. He's passing it to someone. They have a good passing offense -second in the conference. If the Oregon defense has a weakness, it's in the backfield. So it seems natural to be concerned about that.

USC has played one more game than Oregon, given the games left on Oregon’s schedule it’s very likely Bo ends up with more passing yards. Bo is 7th in passing yards per game and Caleb Williams is 11th.

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Caleb Williams is more worrying than a "trap game". As we saw vs UW, our secondary doesn't do well on 50/50 balls.

My hope is we get up on them early and they fold. That and the refs actually call holding for once.

UW's WRs are far better than USC's and it's not close.

Okay, but Williams has 235 more passing yards than Bo does this season. He's passing it to someone. They have a good passing offense -second in the conference. If the Oregon defense has a weakness, it's in the backfield. So it seems natural to be concerned about that.

USC has also played 10 games compared to Oregon's 9 games.

[Phalanx]

Okay, but Williams has 235 more passing yards than Bo does this season. He's passing it to someone. They have a good passing offense -second in the conference. If the Oregon defense has a weakness, it's in the backfield. So it seems natural to be concerned about that.

USC has played one more game than Oregon, given the games left on Oregon’s schedule it’s very likely Bo ends up with more passing yards. Bo is 7th in passing yards per game and Caleb Williams is 11th.

Yes...and? I mean the point wasn't that Williams is going to have more yards to end the season than Bo (that would be good info for the Heisman thread), it was that USC has a good passing offense, and Oregon has a more difficult time with good passing offenses. On a per-game basis, USC is virtually tied with Oregon in passing yards. That means they are good. I have a question about whether our secondary can keep them from scoring a lot of points.

[duck55]

Okay, but Williams has 235 more passing yards than Bo does this season. He's passing it to someone. They have a good passing offense -second in the conference. If the Oregon defense has a weakness, it's in the backfield. So it seems natural to be concerned about that.

USC has played one more game than Oregon, given the games left on Oregon’s schedule it’s very likely Bo ends up with more passing yards. Bo is 7th in passing yards per game and Caleb Williams is 11th.

Yes...and? I mean the point wasn't that Williams is going to have more yards to end the season than Bo (that would be good info for the Heisman thread), it was that USC has a good passing offense, and Oregon has a more difficult time with good passing offenses. On a per-game basis, USC is virtually tied with Oregon in passing yards. That means they are good. I have a question about whether our secondary can keep them from scoring a lot of points.

Agree on all points.
Also, remember Bo has those yards with a solid run game and only playing 3 quarters. Williams has to play full games because they have no defense.

[duckfan96]

Would love to see nix have about 15-20 pass attempts and for Oregon to run the ball 50+times. Irving James Limar and Dowdell all have 100 yards rushing. Would be great to see

[OregonFan4Life]

Okay, but Williams has 235 more passing yards than Bo does this season. He's passing it to someone. They have a good passing offense -second in the conference. If the Oregon defense has a weakness, it's in the backfield. So it seems natural to be concerned about that.

USC has played one more game than Oregon, given the games left on Oregon’s schedule it’s very likely Bo ends up with more passing yards. Bo is 7th in passing yards per game and Caleb Williams is 11th.

Yes...and? I mean the point wasn't that Williams is going to have more yards to end the season than Bo (that would be good info for the Heisman thread), it was that USC has a good passing offense, and Oregon has a more difficult time with good passing offenses. On a per-game basis, USC is virtually tied with Oregon in passing yards. That means they are good. I have a question about whether our secondary can keep them from scoring a lot of points.

And you posted a misleading stat overstating how good the USC passing offense is and I corrected you showing that Bo is above Williams in passing yards per game.

There is no doubt Caleb Williams is great, there’s a reason he’s the projected #1 pick. I have a ton of respect for Caleb Williams and what he does on the field. BUT, it takes more than a QB to make a great passing offense. USC does not have a good OLine at all, Huskies have much better tackles and overall pass protection. Odunze and Polk are far better than any receiver on USC, the best receiver on USC is true freshman Branch who isn’t going to catch the 1v1 balls but gets open easily with his DAT-like speed and agility. The key will be to keep him from getting open while Williams is scrambling.

Caleb Williams averages 295.8 yards per game, most of that is due to necessity as a result of bad defense and playing weak opponents (remember USC had a terrible OOC schedule), he doesn’t have the same luxury as Bo with a really good defense and an offense that runs more. There are 3 games where Caleb Williams was below his average and that wasn’t due to the game being a blowout, those are:

Arizona: 219 yards - 71st ranked passing defense, 6th in PAC-12.
Utah: 256 yards - 34th ranked passing defense, 1st in PAC-12
Notre Dame: 199 yards - 2nd in passing defense.

What I’m trying to say is Caleb and the USC passing offense is good, but they’re not near as good as Washington and not the threat a lot of duck fans are making them out to be. That’s not to say they won’t put up yards and points Sat night, but I think the Oregon defense should have enough success that this game is over by midway through the 4th quarter, at the worst. We also aren’t considering the fact that the USC offense is emotional exhausted and might not have anything left in the tank. I don’t think the Grinch firing does anything for the USC defense and if Oregon jumps up to an early lead I wouldn’t be surprised to see the USC offense mail it in as Caleb thinks about what shows he’ll be watching while cuddling his dog.

For further context, Caleb has not played the 2nd, 4th, and 5th pass defenses in the PAC-12, did play the 3rd and put up 322 yards in one is his more impressive games. Caleb this year has also played the 122nd, 130th (dead last), 128th, 124th, and 121st ranked passing defenses in the country. Saturday he plays Oregon who is 38th and 2nd in the PAC-12 and UCLA who is 57th and 3rd in the PAC-12. Caleb has mostly gone up against really bad passing defenses this season and might struggle these last two games against teams with a legit pass rush and passing defense.

[UOducksTK1]

Okay, but Williams has 235 more passing yards than Bo does this season. He's passing it to someone. They have a good passing offense -second in the conference. If the Oregon defense has a weakness, it's in the backfield. So it seems natural to be concerned about that.

USC has played one more game than Oregon, given the games left on Oregon’s schedule it’s very likely Bo ends up with more passing yards. Bo is 7th in passing yards per game and Caleb Williams is 11th.

Yes...and? I mean the point wasn't that Williams is going to have more yards to end the season than Bo (that would be good info for the Heisman thread), it was that USC has a good passing offense, and Oregon has a more difficult time with good passing offenses. On a per-game basis, USC is virtually tied with Oregon in passing yards. That means they are good. I have a question about whether our secondary can keep them from scoring a lot of points.

Agree on all points.
Also, remember Bo has those yards with a solid run game and only playing 3 quarters. Williams has to play full games because they have no defense.

And... Caleb likely won't have more yards to end the season than Bo, cuz Bo has 4 games left, Caleb has 2.

[OregonFan4Life]

While I’m obsessing over stats, I also wanted to post that Caleb Williams is currently 11th nationally and 5th in the PAC-12 in passing yards per game (Bo is 7th and 4th). Here are QB’s ahead of Caleb that Oregon has already played (with their national and PAC-12 rankings, respectively) as well as how many passing yards per game and how many points they gave up:

Michael Penix Jr - 1st - 1st - 302 yards and 36 points
Shedeur Sanders - 2nd - 2nd - 159 yards and 6 points
Cameron Ward - 5th - 3rd - 438 yards and 24 points.

The game against Ward doesn’t tell the whole story as Florence, Jackson, and Jacobs were out and the duck defense should be fully healthy this Sat. But if USC puts up similar numbers and points as what I listed above, then the Oregon offense should be able to put up more than enough to win easily against USC’s garbage defense. OK I better actually work now.

[UOducksTK1]

Bucky back at practice.

[Phalanx]

And you posted a misleading stat overstating how good the USC passing offense is and I corrected you showing that Bo is above Williams in passing yards per game.

That's dumb. You didn't correct anything, and it wasn't the point of my post anyway. Williams does have more yards, and also more yards per attempt and more TD passes per attempt. But that isn't the point. People are acting like he has nothing receivers and I'm just pointing out that they have a good passing offense.

[ducks5ever]

And you posted a misleading stat overstating how good the USC passing offense is and I corrected you showing that Bo is above Williams in passing yards per game.

That's dumb. You didn't correct anything, and it wasn't the point of my post anyway. Williams does have more yards, and also more yards per attempt and more TD passes per attempt. But that isn't the point. People are acting like he has nothing receivers and I'm just pointing out that they have a good passing offense.

We're not allowed to be fearful of opponents anymore around here.

But I do share your sentiment. USC can put up points and it doesn't really matter if it's home or away.

Still, I'm not too concerned because we'll make a hostile environment, i have faith in the pass rush, and USC doesn't really have much to play for at this point. Caleb's spirit is already broken.