#15 Oregon State @ #6 Oregon (Nov. 24, Fri 5:30 PM Fox)

[Duck07]

Smith is around 5.1M/year is my understanding so yea, I think if OSU can get him to 7-8M/year, then you probably need a school going over 10M/year for him.

Due to the NCAA bylaws allowing a conference to survive with 2-teams for a 2-year period, it's clear that they have to merge with the Mtn West as their only likely means of surviving as a Conf and subsequently keeping the future PAC revenues. I also think that specific clause is what will prevent the departing 8 from being able to dissolve the conference as well so that they can claim those revenues.

[buckmarkduck]

If the 10 want to be dicks,according to California state law you don’t need a unanimous vote to dissolve a business. Os can fight for whatever they think they deserve , but push to hard and it can all go away

As for Smirh, I don’t belive it’s just about money. Who can he recruit to a basically MWC school? No one. And anyone good will just leave for a big nil deal. MWC is a conference for either first time HC, so they can prove themselves and get a bigger job. Or for retreads with no other option to be a HC. A guy like Smith isn’t coaching in the MWC.

[Duck07]

If the 10 want to be dicks,according to California state law you don’t need a unanimous vote to dissolve a business. Os can fight for whatever they think they deserve , but push to hard and it can all go away

They could also set themselves up for a hypothetically massive Tort Claim because the NCAA bylaws that the Organization is a member of explicitly allows for a 2-team conference to exist or in the event that they do in fact dissolve the Conference, all the assets (future and current) could just end up going to WSU/OSU.

As public universities, it would be against the State of Oregon and Washington's interest to vote to dissolve in order to take away such a large amount of money to OSU and WSU. Some BS subjective sense of rivalry is not a basis for dissolving the Pac, especially when all the rules allow for the departing members to become members again in the future as this has been done routinely throughout the history of the conference and its changes. Boise St was a member for Wrestling until 2017.

Just as the departing 8/10 can try to mess with the 2Pac, they can also have that come back on them through other legal processes. The best option for everyone is to simply let the 2Pac try to exist but hey, billable hours are undefeated and what do attorneys care?

According to this handbook, 10/12 members are in violation of Chapter 2, Clause 3 on Membership for withdrawing membership before 8-1-24. When you go back up to 1-4 on Dissolution, you notice that the CEO group at this time is OSU/WSU as everyone else has withdrawn and so far that's my understanding of what the initial court ruling has said: that the CEO group right now is WSU/OSU.

https://pac-12compliance.org/wp-content ... ook.V1.pdf

[Duck07]

As for Smirh, I don’t belive it’s just about money. Who can he recruit to a basically MWC school? No one. And anyone good will just leave for a big nil deal. MWC is a conference for either first time HC, so they can prove themselves and get a bigger job. Or for retreads with no other option to be a HC. A guy like Smith isn’t coaching in the MWC.

3* and rehabbing former big time QBs in the portal who want to go 11-1 and make the 12-team playoff?

Without Smith in Corvallis you're right there isn't a reason for major D1 guys to prefer Corvallis out of HS, but frankly if I'm a fringe big-school guy or want playing time in a good offensive system, he's shown himself to be a quality HC so what else should OSU do to try and save their football program besides keeping the biggest reason they're a ranked team?

[frogsnouts]

OSU should obviously do whatever they can to keep Smith. If I'm him though this is the year I would jump if I have any desire to be a championship-winning coach for one of the bigger schools. Everybody thinks OSU can walk into the MWC and run the table/make the 12-team playoff. But what if they don't, or don't do it consistently enough? Smith can lose a lot if OSU does underperform in a lower conference, so take your chance now. A couple 7-5/8-4 type seasons and I'm not so sure he's a top name for a school like Michigan State unless they strike out on other options.

Seems like the Beaver job would be available later in life if he wants to pull a Riley as well.

[Greenblood]

Looks like temps will be in the 30s for most of the game, a little below average but not that atypical for this time of year, so fans should bundle up. Don't know that the cold would particularly help or hinder either team.

[Zyme]

Looks like temps will be in the 30s for most of the game, a little below average but not that atypical for this time of year, so fans should bundle up. Don't know that the cold would particularly help or hinder either team.

Current forecast 45 at kickoff dropping to low 30s by the end of the game with less than 10 mph breeze dropping to 3 by the end of the game

https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.p ... =graphical

[Duck07]

A chance to leave the conference by beating our rivals on the way out.

This is a big game for Lanning.

[QuackininBama]

This game is HUGE!!
Lose this game and Pac-12 championship GONE, Playoffs, GONE, rivalry games 0-4.
This is not to take away from what a great season the Ducks have had. Its been a great run and tons of fun to watch and being a two loss team is still a terrific season, BUT.........it would take the Ducks, and Lanning from Elite status, to, just a good team, good coach and good program. Like many on this board, I was watching the Ducks when Musgrave was under center and we were psyched to be 8-4 playing in the freedom bowl so I don't want to come off like a spoiled fan, which in some respects to be fair, I am, but the Ducks are on the verge of being ELITE and it would be a real gut punch to lose this one.

[wlduck]

A chance to leave the conference by beating our rivals on the way out.

This is a big game for Lanning.

Especially since he’s 0-3 against UW and OSU so far. The record against rivals is his only blemish really. Winning today and next Friday would go a long way towards erasing that.

[buckmarkduck]

FEBU

[DuckzRule]

There's a rumor going on in an OSU board saying that Jonathan Smith has now accepted the position.

I don't know if this will affect the game at all, positively for us and negatively for the Beavs.

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