#9 Oregon @ UCLA (Sept. 28, Sat 8 PM Fox)

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Defense played great.

Think the pick still happens even if Tez doesn't fall down, Addison was in the right spot to stop that throw (but Tez probably would've made the tackle if he didn't trip). Didn't see anybody open, best case, throw it away and take a shot at a FG.

Gabriel at 75% completion percentage for the game. But only 6.8 yards per attempt (Heisman is 10+, good is 8+; Gabriel averaged 9.5 ypa at Oklahoma last year). Surface level it appears to be efficient--but there continue to be issues with the Stein offense. The media is probably going to cherry pick the completion percentage stat to make things look more rosey than they actually are. But there are indicators that Stein isn't getting the most out of the talent he has available.

UCLA is awful. Ducks have top talent, and the talent is likely to continue to improve as long as the current situation with NIL continues. So the offense will probably continue to improve year over year. But system isn't great. Ducks can do better.
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A solid win overall, didn’t cover the spread but the game wasn’t as close as the score indicated.

Defense was overall great, sloppy first drive giving up a field goal, and gave up a 54 yard field goal on a short field due to the offense not moving the ball, but overall defense was just dominant. DLine did what every elite DLine should do against a weak OLine, just dominate all game long and break the opposing QB. Defense is getting better each week! Only
Issue tonight was Nikko Reed, felt like he got picked on a bit. While he and Manning have improved I do get concerned that we haven’t seen Kam Alexander of Florence yet, cause I know Mohammed has his side locked down but another lockdown corner will go a long way for this defense.

Offense is a complete mystery to me, sometimes they look absolutely unstoppable then they just sort disappear. Not sure why. I think two big reasons. No OLine depth due to injuries so guys get tired in the second half and as a result run blocking just falls apart. Also, I just continue to be puzzled by Will Stein. He draws up some incredible plays, that missed pass by Tez was a great play design. The offense will be clicking but then there are like 3 or 4 series where I feel Will just gets overly conservative and throws everything short and doesn’t utilize the receivers properly (especially Stewart). Tez, Stewart, and Holden are simply unguardable, gotta get them the ball more and running more deep routes, and please stop running screens against press/tight coverage! I’m down for a few screens but the screens were too often tonight and due to the lack of misdirection in the passing game Oregon never made UCLA pay for how aggressive their secondary was.
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#9 Oregon @ UCLA (Sept. 28, Sat 8 PM Fox)

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OregonFan4Life wrote:A solid win overall, didn’t cover the spread but the game wasn’t as close as the score indicated.

Defense was overall great, sloppy first drive giving up a field goal, and gave up a 54 yard field goal on a short field due to the offense not moving the ball, but overall defense was just dominant. DLine did what every elite DLine should do against a weak OLine, just dominate all game long and break the opposing QB. Defense is getting better each week! Only
Issue tonging was Nikko Reed, felt like he got picked on a bit. While he and Manning have improved I do get concerned that we haven’t seen Kam Alexander of Florence yet, cause I know Mohammed has his side locked down but another lockdown corner will go a long way for this defense.

Offense is a complete mystery to me, sometimes they look absolutely unstoppable then they just sort disappear. Not sure why. I think two big reasons. No OLine depth due to injuries so guys get tired in the second half and as a result run blocking just falls apart. Also, I just continue to be puzzled by Will Stein. He draws up some incredible plays, that missed pass by Tez was a great play design. The offense will be clicking but then there are like 3 or 4 series where I feel Will just gets overly conservative and throws everything short and doesn’t utilize the receivers properly (especially Stewart). Tez, Stewart, and Holden are simply unguardable, gotta get them the ball more and running more deep routes, and please stop running screens against press/tight coverage! I’m down for a few screens but the screens were too often tonight and due to the lack of misdirection in the passing game Oregon never made UCLA pay for how aggressive their secondary was.
Uhm….Florence is still recovering from the knee injury. Dan recently said it would be awhile before he is back.


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I woke up at 1am and caught about 10 minutes of the game. Anyone else catch the Michigan State game is a 9pm eastern start time? I saw the commercial. Gotta say its frustrating. Are they burying our games in the middle of the night on purpose? Good grief.
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wepto wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:53 pm Defense played great.

Think the pick still happens even if Tez doesn't fall down, Addison was in the right spot to stop that throw (but Tez probably would've made the tackle if he didn't trip). Didn't see anybody open, best case, throw it away and take a shot at a FG.

Gabriel at 75% completion percentage for the game. But only 6.8 yards per attempt (Heisman is 10+, good is 8+; Gabriel averaged 9.5 ypa at Oklahoma last year). Surface level it appears to be efficient--but there continue to be issues with the Stein offense. The media is probably going to cherry pick the completion percentage stat to make things look more rosey than they actually are. But there are indicators that Stein isn't getting the most out of the talent he has available.

UCLA is awful. Ducks have top talent, and the talent is likely to continue to improve as long as the current situation with NIL continues. So the offense will probably continue to improve year over year. But system isn't great. Ducks can do better.
Yup D was elite.

Ducks went from scoring in 14 straight drives to not scoring a point in 4 straight drives.

The 2nd half offense scored one time. I will also say our running game, both our run blocking and back themselves was pretty average too. Granted UCLA’s run D is pretty solid.

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Also looking at our offensive stats. Indiana and LSU did just as good (or better) offensively against UCLA than Oregon.

And if you look at Idaho and Boise game too, Oregon is having problems scoring 40+ against three teams tbat they totally should have.

You know Oregon is gonna struggle against some of the better front 7s in Big Ten play.

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UOducksTK1 wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:37 am Also looking at our offensive stats. Indiana and LSU did just as good (or better) offensively against UCLA than Oregon.

And if you look at Idaho and Boise game too, Oregon is having problems scoring 40+ against three teams tbat they totally should have.

You know Oregon is gonna struggle against some of the better front 7s in Big Ten play.
I think they’ll be fine. I think they were just content grinding the clock and walking away with the win in the second half. For instance, they ran out the final 7 minutes, when they could have easily scored. They knew UCLA wouldn’t be able to make up the difference offensively and were content to go conservative and get out of there with the win. I don’t think the style points mean much to Lanning.
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droop10 wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:37 am Also looking at our offensive stats. Indiana and LSU did just as good (or better) offensively against UCLA than Oregon.

And if you look at Idaho and Boise game too, Oregon is having problems scoring 40+ against three teams tbat they totally should have.

You know Oregon is gonna struggle against some of the better front 7s in Big Ten play.
I think they’ll be fine. I think they were just content grinding the clock and walking away with the win in the second half. For instance, they ran out the final 7 minutes, when they could have easily scored. They knew UCLA wouldn’t be able to make up the difference offensively and were content to go conservative and get out of there with the win. I don’t think the style points mean much to Lanning.
Totally agree. Style points don't matter and given the chippy play of UCLA it was just best to run clock and get out of there with no injuries.


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droop10 wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:45 am
UOducksTK1 wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:37 am Also looking at our offensive stats. Indiana and LSU did just as good (or better) offensively against UCLA than Oregon.

And if you look at Idaho and Boise game too, Oregon is having problems scoring 40+ against three teams tbat they totally should have.

You know Oregon is gonna struggle against some of the better front 7s in Big Ten play.
I think they’ll be fine. I think they were just content grinding the clock and walking away with the win in the second half. For instance, they ran out the final 7 minutes, when they could have easily scored. They knew UCLA wouldn’t be able to make up the difference offensively and were content to go conservative and get out of there with the win. I don’t think the style points mean much to Lanning.
Fair enough. There were probably only like 3 runs with a clear hole made from the OL.

Checked the stats and our RBs only had two runs over 10 yards. So hopefully conservative play calling is the reason for that.

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UOducksTK1 wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 12:05 pm
droop10 wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:45 am
UOducksTK1 wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:37 am Also looking at our offensive stats. Indiana and LSU did just as good (or better) offensively against UCLA than Oregon.

And if you look at Idaho and Boise game too, Oregon is having problems scoring 40+ against three teams tbat they totally should have.

You know Oregon is gonna struggle against some of the better front 7s in Big Ten play.
I think they’ll be fine. I think they were just content grinding the clock and walking away with the win in the second half. For instance, they ran out the final 7 minutes, when they could have easily scored. They knew UCLA wouldn’t be able to make up the difference offensively and were content to go conservative and get out of there with the win. I don’t think the style points mean much to Lanning.
Fair enough. There were probably only like 3 runs with a clear hole made from the OL.

Checked the stats and our RBs only had two runs over 10 yards. So hopefully conservative play calling is the reason for that.
Yeah, I've noticed that the run game the past 2 seasons hasn't been what I would expect. Offensive line struggle is likely the culprit, but at some point I gotta start to wonder about play calling
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There’s plenty of small things to point out but big picture, our inability to put together a complete game, even against bad competition, and our inability to run the ball is concerning.

Every game has involved one side of the ball not playing well for at least an entire half. Which has meant our backups barely playing so far this season.

And we seem to treat the run game as an accessory, which we only do when we have to and seem content to pass ourselves silly. Which may have everything to do with our poor run blocking.
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> Anyone else catch the Michigan State game is a 9pm eastern start time?

Let your DVR handle it. If it is a day game, record it and start watching an hour or two later so that you can skip the commercials and the halftime drivel. If it's a night game do the same, except that you watch it with your morning coffee. Nothing is more miserable than trying to go to sleep in the eastern time zone after a 3am duck loss.
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