Biased logic discounting Oregon

[Merganzer]

The first part is the idea that beating a good team twice is hard, so following that, Ohio State wins the Rose Bowl. But, if Oregon had lost the Oct.12 game, I don't think they'd be favored in the Rose Bowl. Another instance that's bit faulty was found in a article I came across with "why each team can't win the championship."
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The other teams were cited for less than stellar talent in the trenches, suspect QB play, etc., etc. For Oregon: "They've just won too many games, bound for a loss" I've never heard that about an undefeated team going for the Natty before.

[DuckMastaFunk]

Yeah, the beating a good team twice is impossible argument is essentially saying that we’d have a better shot if we lost the last game. Makes zero sense.

[nogerO]

I find it interesting that all the playoff championship bowl games are on eSECpn. Really hoping Texas and Georgia lose.

[duckpoint]

I find it interesting that all the playoff championship bowl games are on eSECpn. Really hoping Texas and Georgia lose.

ESPN has exclusive media deals with both the CFP & SEC, thus the controversial (conflict of interest) narratives being pushed by the ESPN talking heads...

https://collegefootballplayoff.com/news ... -2032.aspx

ESPN Retains Exclusive Worldwide Rights to All Rounds of the Expanded College Football Playoff, the Second Largest Annual Sporting Event in the U.S.

Starting in 2026-27, the College Football Playoff National Championship Will Be Broadcast on ABC in Addition to ESPN's Signature MegaCast Presentation

Extension Includes Broad College Football Playoff Distribution Rights for Walt Disney Company Linear and Direct-to-Consumer Platforms and Offerings, Expanded Sales and Sponsorship Program for Disney Advertising

https://www.secsports.com/news/2020/12/ ... -agreement

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama (December 10, 2020) - The Southeastern Conference and ESPN have finalized a milestone 10-year agreement that grants ABC and ESPN exclusive broadcast rights to premier SEC football and basketball events beginning in 2024-25 and continuing through 2033-34, as announced today by Greg Sankey, SEC Commissioner, and Jimmy Pitaro, Chairman, ESPN and Sports Content.

The landmark deal, which represents a significant expansion of the conference's current partnership with ESPN, will establish ABC as the new broadcast network home for Saturday afternoon SEC football games, as well as selected Saturday primetime football games and the annual SEC Football Championship Game, which has grown into one of the most popular sporting events of the year. In addition, approximately eight incremental marquee men's basketball games will be featured across ABC or ESPN.

[nogerO]

10 more years of this s***. I think strength of schedule should definitely be figured in. Also if the SEC insists on playing an 8-game conference schedule, the other major conferences should do the same. AND schedule the Mercer, Charleston Southerns, Central Arkansas, Austin Peay and Ball States of the world. SEC bias is alive and well and needs to be taken apart. IF they get control of the college football playoff committee it's only going to get worse. Not to say it hasn't already on some things.

[Duck07]

Yeah, the beating a good team twice is impossible argument is essentially saying that we’d have a better shot if we lost the last game. Makes zero sense.

There's some stat showing in the post-season its 16-7 in favor of the losing team in the rematch which is where some of that comes from.

We can lose this game, but it isn't because of some inane reason like we won the first one FFS. All that stat shows is that over the course of a season teams can change and that really good teams are capable of beating one another - that's not exactly a grand revelation to cling to.

[SuperDuck]

10 more years of this s***. I think strength of schedule should definitely be figured in. Also if the SEC insists on playing an 8-game conference schedule, the other major conferences should do the same. AND schedule the Mercer, Charleston Southerns, Central Arkansas, Austin Peay and Ball States of the world. SEC bias is alive and well and needs to be taken apart. IF they get control of the college football playoff committee it's only going to get worse. Not to say it hasn't already on some things.

I heard there's only one more year of this format and then they'll likely increase the field to 14 yeams.

It's almost a certainty that they'll change the seeding process so conference champs don't get automatic first round bye's as well as seeding with the best teams at the top.

[nogerO]

10 more years of this s***. I think strength of schedule should definitely be figured in. Also if the SEC insists on playing an 8-game conference schedule, the other major conferences should do the same. AND schedule the Mercer, Charleston Southerns, Central Arkansas, Austin Peay and Ball States of the world. SEC bias is alive and well and needs to be taken apart. IF they get control of the college football playoff committee it's only going to get worse. Not to say it hasn't already on some things.

I heard there's only one more year of this format and then they'll likely increase the field to 14 yeams.

It's almost a certainty that they'll change the seeding process so conference champs don't get automatic first round bye's as well as seeding with the best teams at the top.

AND, make sure 2 more SEC teams make the field. Take it to the bank.

[73duck]

I once had a friend who played college ball tell me years ago that the winner of the first game has the advantage; self-confidence vs. self-doubt.

[buckmarkduck]

If we pounce on them early, like we did to Pennn st. They won’t battle back imo.

[StevensTechU]

I'll start by saying I think all college podcasts save for 2 ("The Solid Verbal" and "Ari and Andy", with the former being the best by a wide margin) are garbage. Like commentators, it's clear how many don't do any homework at all and just shoot from the hip. That said, since a lot of them are taking the week off for the holidays, I'm listening to CBS-affiliated "Until Saturday" and after they wax poetic about Ohio State, one guy asks "Has Oregon even played a marquee game since the last time these teams met? *dismissively* I guess the Big Ten championship game."

Moving to the Big Ten hasn't fixed our media bias problem.

[squintsdd]

I'll start by saying I think all college podcasts save for 2 ("The Solid Verbal" and "Ari and Andy", with the former being the best by a wide margin) are garbage. Like commentators, it's clear how many don't do any homework at all and just shoot from the hip. That said, since a lot of them are taking the week off for the holidays, I'm listening to CBS-affiliated "Until Saturday" and after they wax poetic about Ohio State, one guy asks "Has Oregon even played a marquee game since the last time these teams met? *dismissively* I guess the Big Ten championship game."

Moving to the Big Ten hasn't fixed our media bias problem.

Plus another win at Michigan.

Oregon likely won't be taken seriously for a while. They're not a traditional blue blood, and come from the Pac12, which was viewed as a week conference. Anyone not named USC from that conference is immediately dismissed.

[rsbgduck]

I don’t mind being the underdog. As for all the ESPN asshats… screw them. I hope the Ducks come out like this is a business trip. To many teams have come out overhyped up and have been out of position, over pursued which resulted in miss tackles, personal fouls, unnecessary roughness penalties extending drives or killing them.

As for bias goes from announcers the CO and BYU game put it on full display.

Officiating has been atrocious this bowl season when it comes to being consistent with calls particularly with defensive PI.

[5$]

The ohio st fans are disrespectful af, and they're dumb as hell so there's a lot of bad logic and cherry-picked points being made. Just more tacklin' fuel

[droop10]

I know you guys will hate to hear this, but outside of Ohio St. and Penn St., the B1G really wasn't that good. There's a reason that an average Indiana team was able to go 11-1. It's a very top heavy conference, as it has been for years. There just aren't many playmakers in the conference, so if a team can get a multi-score lead, the game is basically over. Over the next couple of years, Michigan will definitely join the upper echelon again as hard as they're going with NIL now, and USC may at least be decent. But, it's going to be a lot of blowouts for the Ducks, as it was this year, mixed in with a couple of close games. There's a reason that Ohio St. and Michigan were rarely challenged in the past 5-6 years.

That's not discounting how good the Ducks are, just stating that they really haven't been challenged much in conference, outside of a couple of games. I was at the Wisconsin game, so I know all about the struggles there, but under normal circumstances, that should have been a blow out too. I think that was just a byproduct of night game on the road with 8 consecutive games with some critical injuries mixed in, and a decent amount of recent travel. Wisconsin was not a particularly good team.