Any Truth to the rumor that Gabe King was

[Bigducker]

From what i've heard he's got attitude problem.. Probably too big of an ego. Chip's not going to take him back.

He really doesn't. He's a good and pretty down to earth kid.

Ask Chip what he thinks.

[Tray Dub]

From what i've heard he's got attitude problem.. Probably too big of an ego. Chip's not going to take him back.

He really doesn't. He's a good and pretty down to earth kid.

Ask Chip what he thinks.

I didn't realize I should trust Chip's judgments of human beings over my own. Have you ever even said a word to King?

[ChipKellyKapowski]

Anybody that doesn't believe Gabe King burned his bridges with CK clearly never gets information from any of the insiders at educk, dsa, or dt. (whether or not he's a good kid, he clearly did something to piss CK off.)

[Bigducker]

From what i've heard he's got attitude problem.. Probably too big of an ego. Chip's not going to take him back.

He really doesn't. He's a good and pretty down to earth kid.

Ask Chip what he thinks.

I didn't realize I should trust Chip's judgments of human beings over my own. Have you ever even said a word to King?

Hate to tell you this but YES I would trust Chip's judgement on a recruit much more than yours.

[oreducks77]

Anybody that doesn't believe Gabe King burned his bridges with CK clearly never gets information from any of the insiders at educk, dsa, or dt. (whether or not he's a good kid, he clearly did something to piss CK off.)

Okay, Cooly McCoolGuy... care to share? I haven't heard anything other than a rumor, and I have a Rivals account.

[karlhungis]

Anybody that doesn't believe Gabe King burned his bridges with CK clearly never gets information from any of the insiders at educk, dsa, or dt. (whether or not he's a good kid, he clearly did something to piss CK off.)

Okay, Cooly McCoolGuy... care to share? I haven't heard anything other than a rumor, and I have a Rivals account.

Well the truth is that I have a very reliable source that is the cousin of a friend of the bartender at a bar that sells beer to a guy that bought tickets to a game once where he met a guy that likes to surf facebook for the profiles of some of these recruits... and to make a long story short, nobody knows s***.

[mdm0302]

Anybody that doesn't believe Gabe King burned his bridges with CK clearly never gets information from any of the insiders at educk, dsa, or dt. (whether or not he's a good kid, he clearly did something to piss CK off.)

Okay, Cooly McCoolGuy... care to share? I haven't heard anything other than a rumor, and I have a Rivals account.

Well the truth is that I have a very reliable source that is the cousin of a friend of the bartender at a bar that sells beer to a guy that bought tickets to a game once where he met a guy that likes to surf facebook for the profiles of some of these recruits... and to make a long story short, nobody knows s***.

lol

[ChipKellyKapowski]

Allright, I suppose I deserved that - sorry.
My intent was not to lord over anybody in a 'i know something you don't' sort of way...

It's just that m4, jhop, aj etc have all said that Oregon dropped King, and there's virtually no chance that the situation will change.

[UOducksTK1]

Allright, I suppose I deserved that - sorry.
My intent was not to lord over anybody in a 'i know something you don't' sort of way...

It's just that m4, jhop, aj etc have all said that Oregon dropped King, and there's virtually no chance that the situation will change.

I don't know specifically if Gabe did something to Chip that pissed him off, or if there's something else going wrong, but yeah it sounds like the Gabe - UO connection has been burned.

I honestly have no clue where he'll end up though. Cal might not be an option with grades and other issues. Someone mentioned OSU, and North Carolina as well. Should be crazy. Never say never, but Gabe and UO appear to be done.

Ready for signing day?

[Tray Dub]

From what i've heard he's got attitude problem.. Probably too big of an ego. Chip's not going to take him back.

He really doesn't. He's a good and pretty down to earth kid.

Ask Chip what he thinks.

I didn't realize I should trust Chip's judgments of human beings over my own. Have you ever even said a word to King?

Hate to tell you this but YES I would trust Chip's judgement on a recruit much more than yours.

Cut the Kelly worship, he's not a god. We're not talking about talent evaluation. On a recruit's talent, football acumen, potential, etc.? Sure, trust Kelly. But their character? What makes him any more able to judge a person's character than me?

And I would assume by not answering my question that you haven't ever talked to King personally, meaning that you're less qualified than anyone to judge his personality than anyone. So I'd walk away from this one if I were you.

[Thrillho]

I have educk premium and as far as I know the details have never been aired. Who knows what happened. Clearly there was some damage done to the relationship--but that does not mean it cannot be repaired. Maybe they didnt get divorced-maybe they are just on a break. We'll see on Wednesday. I, for one, would not be surprised at all to see King sign with the Ducks.

[ncduck]

Not to jump too far into the pissing match, but since Chip knows the recruits personally and most of us do not he probably has a decent handle on their character compared to most of us.

[pezsez1]

I didn't realize I should trust Chip's judgments of human beings over my own. Have you ever even said a word to King?

I think the difference is that we know Chip Kelly and his staff have had substantial, prolonged communications with King; on the other hand, those of us on this forum do not know to what extent regular posters have communicated with him.

It's far safer to assume that Chip Kelly knows him better.

That said, I get the feeling that we're not done with King if this is only an issue of attitude, because the kid still has two more days to come around. If this is about a potential recruiting violation, then yeah, we're probably done.

[UofDuck]

Hate to tell you this but YES I would trust Chip's judgement on a recruit much more than yours

Cut the Kelly worship, he's not a god. We're not talking about talent evaluation. On a recruit's talent, football acumen, potential, etc.? Sure, trust Kelly. But their character? What makes him any more able to judge a person's character than me?

The thing is Tray Dub, the same question applies, what makes you a better judge of character than Chip? I suspect that over the last 20 years of coaching college age kids, Chip has learned a thing or two about character warning signs. I have no idea your experience in this field, so I too trust Chip's evaluation over yours whether or not I have personally ever spoken to King. You are a guy on a forum who likely bumped into King a few times and Chip is a Division I Head coach with a team of recruiting support. I am certain he has information you don't have access too - such as interviews with prior coaches/teachers/parents from North Carolina...etc. So yep, I do trust Chip regarding this. And if I had a nickel for everytime someone said, "too bad his life has turned out this way, he seemed like such a good guy when I met him..."

I am not intending to say Kind has an attitude - or you are not a fine judge of character, but there must be something that happened that Chip knows about that perhaps the rest of us don't - so I will trust him on it for now.

[GoDucksIn09]

Each person that comes across our path sometimes comes across differently to others when they cross their path. It is very possible that in the conversations Tray Dub had with King that he was very down to earth socialable and a fine young man. On the same token though I would suspect a head coach does a much more intense review of a person because they need to see beyond the smoke screens the mirrors and what not. He would need to know his commitment level his work ethics his willingness to be a team player to work hard etc etc. This is not at all to discredit Tray Dub. I believe the contact he had with him was very respectable. However if Coach Kelly feels things have reached the point of Gabe King burning bridges then I have to trust him as feel is more to this than what Tray Dub has seen. That does not make him wrong just Chip Kelly knows more about King probably than any of us do.

If this is a recruiting thing and would be a violation by the NCAA rules then is nothing Kelly can do.. his hands are effectively tied and would trust that Kelly would not break them. I do not understand what the violation might be but some rules by the NCAA are funny. I suspect on wednesday we will have at least some answers to this whole thing with King if King signs a LOI with somebody.