Any Truth to the rumor that Gabe King was

[ducksman11]

If King has academic issues then I don't think UNC would be a good fit for him. They are up there with Cal, Michigan and UCLA for top academics at a public university

[glazeduck]

If King has academic issues then I don't think UNC would be a good fit for him. They are up there with Cal, Michigan and UCLA for top academics at a public university

1. There's a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference between having "academic issues" and not being able to academically qualify at Cal. I had a 3.6 from a prestigious H.S. and a 1390 on the SATs (when it was out of 1600) and they rejected me.

2. Seeing as how he's only been living in Oregon for a few months, and was, until that point living in N.C., I presume since he was a young child (or even born there), I'm sure he'd be able to claim in-state status.

3. UNC seems to be pretty dang good at getting great athletes in (for more than one sport) - regardless of grades, so w/ King be a local, 4 star DEnd I'm CERTAIN they've gotten dumber kids in before.

[Bigducker]

[quote="Tray DubHate to tell you this but YES I would trust Chip's judgement on a recruit much more than yours.

Cut the Kelly worship, he's not a god. We're not talking about talent evaluation. On a recruit's talent, football acumen, potential, etc.? Sure, trust Kelly. But their character? What makes him any more able to judge a person's character than me?

And I would assume by not answering my question that you haven't ever talked to King personally, meaning that you're less qualified than anyone to judge his personality than anyone. So I'd walk away from this one if I were you.

Look you have no idea who I am and what I know. Your probably a young kid that has no life experiences to judge anyone. As you get older you will find out that all you think you see from the outside is NOT what it IS.
Coaches have to do all kinds of evaluations on recruits to make sure they get the right kid for their program..... THEY KNOW what their doing in evaluating people from years of experience. Don't think you do.

[ducksman11]

If King has academic issues then I don't think UNC would be a good fit for him. They are up there with Cal, Michigan and UCLA for top academics at a public university

1. There's a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference between having "academic issues" and not being able to academically qualify at Cal. I had a 3.6 from a prestigious H.S. and a 1390 on the SATs (when it was out of 1600) and they rejected me.

2. Seeing as how he's only been living in Oregon for a few months, and was, until that point living in N.C., I presume since he was a young child (or even born there), I'm sure he'd be able to claim in-state status.

3. UNC seems to be pretty dang good at getting great athletes in (for more than one sport) - regardless of grades, so w/ King be a local, 4 star DEnd I'm CERTAIN they've gotten dumber kids in before.

I'm saying that UNC and Cal should have similar academic qualifications. At schools like Cal and UNC being in-state is the difference between being accepted with 3.6 and 1390 and not.

[glazeduck]

If King has academic issues then I don't think UNC would be a good fit for him. They are up there with Cal, Michigan and UCLA for top academics at a public university

1. There's a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference between having "academic issues" and not being able to academically qualify at Cal. I had a 3.6 from a prestigious H.S. and a 1390 on the SATs (when it was out of 1600) and they rejected me.

2. Seeing as how he's only been living in Oregon for a few months, and was, until that point living in N.C., I presume since he was a young child (or even born there), I'm sure he'd be able to claim in-state status.

3. UNC seems to be pretty dang good at getting great athletes in (for more than one sport) - regardless of grades, so w/ King be a local, 4 star DEnd I'm CERTAIN they've gotten dumber kids in before.

I'm saying that UNC and Cal should have similar academic qualifications. At schools like Cal and UNC being in-state is the difference between being accepted with 3.6 and 1390 and not.

Exactly. Which could explain why he's all of a sudden now supposedly going to UNC. He's still probably considered "in-state" there. I also see UNC as being more "flexible" with athletes in this regard -- I can't possibly imagine Gabe King is as dumb as Tyler Hansborough, yet he got in just fine. Cal is much more known to be stricter on those #s.

[freedjr]

Not sure what to think, but Chip seems to be a forgiving guy. A phone call from an 18 year old confused kid who did or said something dumb can go a long way. Especially if it's a position of need and he's trying to make the biggest decision of his life.

[dthomas=ddixon]

If Chip can give Blount a second chance, he can give Gabe a second chance. If Gabe is really trying to get ahold of Chip & rebuild those bridges that have suppossedly been broken I would think Chip would accept his apology & commitment.

[jimmy12]

Forget I asked guys. What started as a question seeking facts has turned in to useless speculation about the character of Gabe and now Chip. This is kind of ridiculous. Gabe either called Chip or he didn't. That is all I wanted to know.

[RanDux]

If Chip can give Blount a second chance, he can give Gabe a second chance. If Gabe is really trying to get ahold of Chip & rebuild those bridges that have suppossedly been broken I would think Chip would accept his apology & commitment.

I don't know either of them but I find myself wondering if Gabe might have been enjoying the process a little too much for our program's needs. It's not unlike a courtship with its exitement of the chase. We like being wanted and pursued. But Chip has to look at the big picture of the whole team and can't afford to put too much attention in one particular area. He simply can't put his eggs all in one basket. That said, if Gabe had a change of heart I would hope Chip has room for one also. I am sure Gabe is a good kid, but he is still a kid. IMO what we are struggling with are the tensions between patience versus accountability with these kids, and the needs of those kids versus the needs of the whole team. I sincerely hope they can work it out.

[hines]

there's more to the story than just miscommunication. and the blount situation is not even close to this king stuff. really bad comparisons.

[stanfurdbites]

i find it amusing that a so-called rumor from an unspecified, unverified, unsubstantiated source, on a free board no less, has turned into a 40 post thread with hopeful, rational thinking ...

[mdm0302]

there's more to the story than just miscommunication. and the blount situation is not even close to this king stuff. really bad comparisons.

CAN YOU PLEASE TELL US DETAILS??????? AT-LEAST AFTER SIGNING DAY?????

[ncduck]

^^^ At least in general terms if possible. It sounds like an interesting story.

[MFRDuckFan]

Latest update on King going to Cal ~

http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2010/02 ... ng-to-cal/

[glazeduck]

i find it amusing that a so-called rumor from an unspecified, unverified, unsubstantiated source, on a free board no less, has turned into a 40 post thread with hopeful, rational thinking ...

This is basically all the "news" that's been out there in the last few weeks it seems like.

Reminds me of the NBA trading deadline. Wild rumors and reports fly around for months leading up to it, and the closer and closer you get to the actual day, the less verifiable, factual information comes out.

For all we know, the Owa dropping us, us dropping King, Dargan down to us and wsu, Werner wanting warm weather, etc. could all be just unsubstantiated rumors and indeed factually incorrect. (I know, I know, Werner TOLD Williams that he wanted warm, etc.) My point is that 1) until their LOI is signed and in another teams' hands, they're still open to recruit, and we've got alot of positive recruiting angles, and 2) as we've seen FAR too many times, things can change in a matter of moments, so, to quote Sam L Jackson in Jurassic Park "hold onto your butts".

All that said - this is a great class already (assuming we do indeed get all our verbals' LOIs).

If we can add just a few more from the following list, there will be great things in store for these ducks!

Dargan (should be ours)
Huff (should be ours)
Jefferson (might be more open than we thought?)
Dungy (should be ours)
Thompkins (COULD be ours -- would be nice)
Akuna (seems like no one has the faintest clue)
Werner
Heimuli
Potoae
King
Owa
Easley

Also, I firmly believe (with zero knowledge to back it up -- just a hunch) that we're gonna get a few guys that no one expects/knows about.