Reason we pulled King's offer????

[greenyellow]

Doesn't sound like something Jeff Tedford would do. Several years ago when Gary Campbell committed a major recruiting violation Tedford quietly advised Bellotti and allowed Oregon to self report. Probably saved Campbell's job and the Ducks a major investigation. Jeff Tedford was a class act while at Oregon and I don't think anything has changed during his time at Cal.

Just out of curiosity what did Campbell do?

He was trying to sign JJ Arrington before a midnight deadline but couldn't get his dad to sign off on it so he had just JJ sign it after midnight, which is a minor NCAA violation when reported early.

[stanfurdbites]

The business of college recruiting has become very dirty with a lot of brokering and behind the scenes deals being made. Last year with Bryce Brown and now this year with a package deal and all kinds of things going on that can be speculated on but who knows what is really going on with the NC kids. The NCAA needs to do a better job of preventing this stuff from going on. The kids should just be allowed to pick a school that offers them the best opportunity for them not whether or not their agent, manager or what have you is being offered a deal, because you know this stuff goes on but it is hush hush. Things seem to have gotten almost out of hand the last few years.

How ironic that you are speculating about the NC4 and why they should not be choosing a college based on their friendship and desire to play together ... didn't you guys hope that thru McCain and Scales, you'd get the two biggest fish in Allen and King? Aren't you hoping to build pipelines into Texas and Florida with LJ/Seastrunk and Dungy?

What exactly stuff do you hope the NCAA prevents? Friends can't play with each other? Teammates can't be on the same team after high school? A supremely talented player can't help his brother get into a good school and fulfill a dream? Recruits can't try to convince their teammates to join them and build an incredible program?

I'm blown away by what I've seen on this board by some. Have some class, wish the kids the best in the future and may the best man win.

[stanfurdbites]

FWIW, I was speaking to a husky alum last night about this and he told me that one of the rumors swirling up there was that if King signed with Oregon, that Tedford was going to run to the NCAA crying foul play on this. Considering that Otis guy pretty much brokered Kings transfer to South Eugene, there might be something to it. Again, just a rumor.

And before accusing Tedford of anything but the highest integrity and class, at least back something up. Has Tedford ever done anything that would suggest otherwise? From the time at FSU, to UO to Cal? Has he ever run up a score (Harbaugh/Carroll)? Or cursed out a player on TV (Mangini)? Or encouraged dirty play by his team (Neuhiesel)? Has he ever dissed a coach from an end-of-game handshake cause he was a sore loser (Harbaugh)?

I could go on and on. But my point is, when you try to make accusations about a coach or team, make sure you have something to back it up ...

[mdm0302]

FWIW, I was speaking to a husky alum last night about this and he told me that one of the rumors swirling up there was that if King signed with Oregon, that Tedford was going to run to the NCAA crying foul play on this. Considering that Otis guy pretty much brokered Kings transfer to South Eugene, there might be something to it. Again, just a rumor.

And before accusing Tedford of anything but the highest integrity and class, at least back something up. Has Tedford ever done anything that would suggest otherwise? From the time at FSU, to UO to Cal? Has he ever run up a score (Harbaugh/Carroll)? Or cursed out a player on TV (Mangini)? Or encouraged dirty play by his team (Neuhiesel)? Has he ever dissed a coach from an end-of-game handshake cause he was a sore loser (Harbaugh)?

I could go on and on. But my point is, when you try to make accusations about a coach or team, make sure you have something to back it up ...

calm down or leave dude.. he just said what some one told him... and this a duck forum we can say whatever the hell we want and not got harassed about it by you..

[hualalai06]

FWIW, I was speaking to a husky alum last night about this and he told me that one of the rumors swirling up there was that if King signed with Oregon, that Tedford was going to run to the NCAA crying foul play on this. Considering that Otis guy pretty much brokered Kings transfer to South Eugene, there might be something to it. Again, just a rumor.

And before accusing Tedford of anything but the highest integrity and class, at least back something up. Has Tedford ever done anything that would suggest otherwise? From the time at FSU, to UO to Cal? Has he ever run up a score (Harbaugh/Carroll)? Or cursed out a player on TV (Mangini)? Or encouraged dirty play by his team (Neuhiesel)? Has he ever dissed a coach from an end-of-game handshake cause he was a sore loser (Harbaugh)?

I could go on and on. But my point is, when you try to make accusations about a coach or team, make sure you have something to back it up ...

Nobody on this board, or any other for that matter, has proof to back it up. It's an internet chat room man. I think your expectations are just a bit out of whack. Maybe try a church chat room, you should find people that are morally elite such as yourself. Maybe not though, any talk about God would be shot down by you because you'd want "something to back it up".

[monster]

Otis "the pimp" Yelverton

http://secexpats.blogspot.com/2010/02/o ... owing.html

totally misread the title of that blog

[gofightingducks]

The business of college recruiting has become very dirty with a lot of brokering and behind the scenes deals being made. Last year with Bryce Brown and now this year with a package deal and all kinds of things going on that can be speculated on but who knows what is really going on with the NC kids. The NCAA needs to do a better job of preventing this stuff from going on. The kids should just be allowed to pick a school that offers them the best opportunity for them not whether or not their agent, manager or what have you is being offered a deal, because you know this stuff goes on but it is hush hush. Things seem to have gotten almost out of hand the last few years.

How ironic that you are speculating about the NC4 and why they should not be choosing a college based on their friendship and desire to play together ... didn't you guys hope that thru McCain and Scales, you'd get the two biggest fish in Allen and King? Aren't you hoping to build pipelines into Texas and Florida with LJ/Seastrunk and Dungy?

What exactly stuff do you hope the NCAA prevents? Friends can't play with each other? Teammates can't be on the same team after high school? A supremely talented player can't help his brother get into a good school and fulfill a dream? Recruits can't try to convince their teammates to join them and build an incredible program?

I'm blown away by what I've seen on this board by some. Have some class, wish the kids the best in the future and may the best man win.

I am speaking in general all of the things that have been happening with violations not being that big of a deal. What is the point of it being a violation if there is no penalty for it. The whole Bryce Brown and his agent/manager thing was filled with controversy and violations that were not taken seriously. I am including Oregon in this if in fact King was brought to Eugene by a OU booster. That shouldn't have happened and the Ducks should face penalties if it did happen. Recruiting had become more of a business then that of a kid picking a school to help him improve his skills, get an education and make it to the next level.A lot of money and dirty dealings going on, more then ever before. If King was able to talk McCain, Allen and whomever else into going to Cal that is great, but if something comes out that there was something shady going on (I am not speculatiting or accusing Cal of anything) then it should be taken seriously by the NCAA. Just as the USC stuff that went down the NCAA is going to do anything to harm one of their biggest money makers. One of the reasons I don't watch professional sports much anymore is because is all revolves around money and not entertainment or competiveness anymore. College sports, particularly football is becoming that. It is great when your program can generate revenue and turn a profit but where does it end. Oregon is no exception they are just as bad as everyone else.

[AutzenMember]

The business of college recruiting has become very dirty with a lot of brokering and behind the scenes deals being made. Last year with Bryce Brown and now this year with a package deal and all kinds of things going on that can be speculated on but who knows what is really going on with the NC kids. The NCAA needs to do a better job of preventing this stuff from going on. The kids should just be allowed to pick a school that offers them the best opportunity for them not whether or not their agent, manager or what have you is being offered a deal, because you know this stuff goes on but it is hush hush. Things seem to have gotten almost out of hand the last few years.

How ironic that you are speculating about the NC4 and why they should not be choosing a college based on their friendship and desire to play together ... didn't you guys hope that thru McCain and Scales, you'd get the two biggest fish in Allen and King? Aren't you hoping to build pipelines into Texas and Florida with LJ/Seastrunk and Dungy?

What exactly stuff do you hope the NCAA prevents? Friends can't play with each other? Teammates can't be on the same team after high school? A supremely talented player can't help his brother get into a good school and fulfill a dream? Recruits can't try to convince their teammates to join them and build an incredible program?

I'm blown away by what I've seen on this board by some. Have some class, wish the kids the best in the future and may the best man win.

I am speaking in general all of the things that have been happening with violations not being that big of a deal. What is the point of it being a violation if there is no penalty for it. The whole Bryce Brown and his agent/manager thing was filled with controversy and violations that were not taken seriously. I am including Oregon in this if in fact King was brought to Eugene by a OU booster. That shouldn't have happened and the Ducks should face penalties if it did happen. Recruiting had become more of a business then that of a kid picking a school to help him improve his skills, get an education and make it to the next level.A lot of money and dirty dealings going on, more then ever before. If King was able to talk McCain, Allen and whomever else into going to Cal that is great, but if something comes out that there was something shady going on (I am not speculatiting or accusing Cal of anything) then it should be taken seriously by the NCAA. Just as the USC stuff that went down the NCAA is going to do anything to harm one of their biggest money makers. One of the reasons I don't watch professional sports much anymore is because is all revolves around money and not entertainment or competiveness anymore. College sports, particularly football is becoming that. It is great when your program can generate revenue and turn a profit but where does it end. Oregon is no exception they are just as bad as everyone else.

I don't get it...wouldn't the booster have wanted him in Norman rather than Eugene? Never mind, let Oklahoma fry for it!

[Sooth]

Have some class.

This from a guy who goes under the moniker stanfurdbites.

I love the internet.

[oreducks77]

there are about 3 threads of why we pulled King's offer. just read them.

Really, I haven't heard any reasons why and I have a DSA account... all I've heard it is crap like "Something happened" and "Bad relationship with Chip" bla blah blah... I haven't heard anything REAL.

[karlhungis]

there are about 3 threads of why we pulled King's offer. just read them.

Really, I haven't heard any reasons why and I have a DSA account... all I've heard it is crap like "Something happened" and "Bad relationship with Chip" bla blah blah... I haven't heard anything REAL.

Exactly. This is the only thread that offered any real information regarding the situation.

[gofightingducks]

The business of college recruiting has become very dirty with a lot of brokering and behind the scenes deals being made. Last year with Bryce Brown and now this year with a package deal and all kinds of things going on that can be speculated on but who knows what is really going on with the NC kids. The NCAA needs to do a better job of preventing this stuff from going on. The kids should just be allowed to pick a school that offers them the best opportunity for them not whether or not their agent, manager or what have you is being offered a deal, because you know this stuff goes on but it is hush hush. Things seem to have gotten almost out of hand the last few years.

How ironic that you are speculating about the NC4 and why they should not be choosing a college based on their friendship and desire to play together ... didn't you guys hope that thru McCain and Scales, you'd get the two biggest fish in Allen and King? Aren't you hoping to build pipelines into Texas and Florida with LJ/Seastrunk and Dungy?

What exactly stuff do you hope the NCAA prevents? Friends can't play with each other? Teammates can't be on the same team after high school? A supremely talented player can't help his brother get into a good school and fulfill a dream? Recruits can't try to convince their teammates to join them and build an incredible program?

I'm blown away by what I've seen on this board by some. Have some class, wish the kids the best in the future and may the best man win.

I am speaking in general all of the things that have been happening with violations not being that big of a deal. What is the point of it being a violation if there is no penalty for it. The whole Bryce Brown and his agent/manager thing was filled with controversy and violations that were not taken seriously. I am including Oregon in this if in fact King was brought to Eugene by a OU booster. That shouldn't have happened and the Ducks should face penalties if it did happen. Recruiting had become more of a business then that of a kid picking a school to help him improve his skills, get an education and make it to the next level.A lot of money and dirty dealings going on, more then ever before. If King was able to talk McCain, Allen and whomever else into going to Cal that is great, but if something comes out that there was something shady going on (I am not speculatiting or accusing Cal of anything) then it should be taken seriously by the NCAA. Just as the USC stuff that went down the NCAA is going to do anything to harm one of their biggest money makers. One of the reasons I don't watch professional sports much anymore is because is all revolves around money and not entertainment or competiveness anymore. College sports, particularly football is becoming that. It is great when your program can generate revenue and turn a profit but where does it end. Oregon is no exception they are just as bad as everyone else.

I don't get it...wouldn't the booster have wanted him in Norman rather than Eugene? Never mind, let Oklahoma fry for it!

Oops I didn't proofread my response. UO