Emergency DT options...
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vagusnerve
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Re: Emergency DT options...
Maybe so....
Fact is, Chung was like 15 years old when we were recruiting him. Much like Hemschoot this year, he was just underdeveloped until his senior year.
FSU pulled their offer to Dungy. And it was a greyshirt offer.
Louisville?
Ohio?
They have football teams?
And Dmoney Duck,
Scout is notorious for underanking Oregon players. Most of those guys had high rankings with ESPN and/or Rivals.
Regardless, stars aren't everything, and I'm not saying they are.
These guys might turn out to be good, who knows.
We'll never know the reason we brought in Dungy, most likely.
The fact is, we brought in Scales to get the NC group.
Case closed.
"Oh, and wouldn't you think the son of a 2 time NFL pro bowler would get some attention?"
-Yeah, I would think so. And he didn't. Which probably means the Florida schools took a look at him and moved on, FSU certainly did.
Fact is, Chung was like 15 years old when we were recruiting him. Much like Hemschoot this year, he was just underdeveloped until his senior year.
FSU pulled their offer to Dungy. And it was a greyshirt offer.
Louisville?
Ohio?
They have football teams?
And Dmoney Duck,
Scout is notorious for underanking Oregon players. Most of those guys had high rankings with ESPN and/or Rivals.
Regardless, stars aren't everything, and I'm not saying they are.
These guys might turn out to be good, who knows.
We'll never know the reason we brought in Dungy, most likely.
The fact is, we brought in Scales to get the NC group.
Case closed.
"Oh, and wouldn't you think the son of a 2 time NFL pro bowler would get some attention?"
-Yeah, I would think so. And he didn't. Which probably means the Florida schools took a look at him and moved on, FSU certainly did.
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chapelhillduck
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Re: Emergency DT options...
Louisville and Kentucky (and Ohio) are actually pretty good football teams actually
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Re: Emergency DT options...
Bottom line is we were a top 15 program this past decade and only looking up, so I think our staff knows just a bit more than you or anyone on these boards do. Their track records speaks for themselves.vagusnerve wrote:Maybe so....
Fact is, Chung was like 15 years old when we were recruiting him. Much like Hemschoot this year, he was just underdeveloped until his senior year.
FSU pulled their offer to Dungy. And it was a greyshirt offer.
Louisville?
Ohio?
They have football teams?
And Dmoney Duck,
Scout is notorious for underanking Oregon players. Most of those guys had high rankings with ESPN and/or Rivals.
Regardless, stars aren't everything, and I'm not saying they are.
These guys might turn out to be good, who knows.
We'll never know the reason we brought in Dungy, most likely.
The fact is, we brought in Scales to get the NC group.
Case closed.
"Oh, and wouldn't you think the son of a 2 time NFL pro bowler would get some attention?"
-Yeah, I would think so. And he didn't. Which probably means the Florida schools took a look at him and moved on, FSU certainly did.
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vagusnerve
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Re: Emergency DT options...
You seem to think that I believe that our coaches recruited Scales because they thought he would be a player.
I don't.
I believe they recruited him in order to bank the NC group of Allen, McCain and King.
I am not the only person who believes this.
I don't.
I believe they recruited him in order to bank the NC group of Allen, McCain and King.
I am not the only person who believes this.
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Who cares if he was brought in to lure others or not...he's a DUCK now and we should all be behind him. We have one of the best secondary coaches in the nation and not all players need to be amazing..we need special teams and practice players too. My money is on Neal getting the most out of him.
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vagusnerve
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Re: Emergency DT options...
I hope you're right
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maxduck
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Actually I was referring to Byrd, his father is Gil Byrd (look him up). In the heart of Big 12 country he had no offers according to Scout. By your criteria he didn't deserve a scholarship.vagusnerve wrote:Maybe so....
Fact is, Chung was like 15 years old when we were recruiting him. Much like Hemschoot this year, he was just underdeveloped until his senior year.
FSU pulled their offer to Dungy. And it was a greyshirt offer.
Louisville?
Ohio?
They have football teams?
And Dmoney Duck,
Scout is notorious for underanking Oregon players. Most of those guys had high rankings with ESPN and/or Rivals.
Regardless, stars aren't everything, and I'm not saying they are.
These guys might turn out to be good, who knows.
We'll never know the reason we brought in Dungy, most likely.
The fact is, we brought in Scales to get the NC group.
Case closed.
"Oh, and wouldn't you think the son of a 2 time NFL pro bowler would get some attention?"
-Yeah, I would think so. And he didn't. Which probably means the Florida schools took a look at him and moved on, FSU certainly did.
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canaduck
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Re: Emergency DT options...
Besides having NFL bloodlines, as others have said, Dungy's tape got out late, and keep in mind he played for a team that won one of the hardest titles to win in the country.vagusnerve wrote:Maybe so....
Fact is, Chung was like 15 years old when we were recruiting him. Much like Hemschoot this year, he was just underdeveloped until his senior year.
FSU pulled their offer to Dungy. And it was a greyshirt offer.
Louisville?
Ohio?
They have football teams?
And Dmoney Duck,
Scout is notorious for underanking Oregon players. Most of those guys had high rankings with ESPN and/or Rivals.
Regardless, stars aren't everything, and I'm not saying they are.
These guys might turn out to be good, who knows.
We'll never know the reason we brought in Dungy, most likely.
The fact is, we brought in Scales to get the NC group.
Case closed.
"Oh, and wouldn't you think the son of a 2 time NFL pro bowler would get some attention?"
-Yeah, I would think so. And he didn't. Which probably means the Florida schools took a look at him and moved on, FSU certainly did.
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/oregon/football ... Byrd-28089maxduck wrote:Actually I was referring to Byrd, his father is Gil Byrd (look him up). In the heart of Big 12 country he had no offers according to Scout. By your criteria he didn't deserve a scholarship.vagusnerve wrote:Maybe so....
Fact is, Chung was like 15 years old when we were recruiting him. Much like Hemschoot this year, he was just underdeveloped until his senior year.
FSU pulled their offer to Dungy. And it was a greyshirt offer.
Louisville?
Ohio?
They have football teams?
And Dmoney Duck,
Scout is notorious for underanking Oregon players. Most of those guys had high rankings with ESPN and/or Rivals.
Regardless, stars aren't everything, and I'm not saying they are.
These guys might turn out to be good, who knows.
We'll never know the reason we brought in Dungy, most likely.
The fact is, we brought in Scales to get the NC group.
Case closed.
"Oh, and wouldn't you think the son of a 2 time NFL pro bowler would get some attention?"
-Yeah, I would think so. And he didn't. Which probably means the Florida schools took a look at him and moved on, FSU certainly did.
Byrd had legit offers
rating services evaluate more players today than 5 years ago
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Re: Emergency DT options...
WTF is going on here...Support your team, future recruits and the coaching staff!
We don't have the luxury to waste scholarships...we are trying to win a NC aren't we?
Have some faith!
GO DUCKS!!
We don't have the luxury to waste scholarships...we are trying to win a NC aren't we?
Have some faith!
GO DUCKS!!
GO DUCKS!! WTD!
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glazeduck
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It's funny to me that if Oregon recruits a player that novices deem to be unworthy then it's a huge mistake and a waste and pathetic, and a miss, etc.
It's not like any athlete has EVER worked hard to improve his abilities and risen above players said to be better than them. No big time player has EVER had problems with grades, drugs, girls, parties, or simply taken his talents for granted and failed to work hard.
And for that matter, I find it pretty arrogant (idiotic?) to assume that because these kids got an offer they're just gonna ride it out to a degree.
THESE KIDS ARE ATHLETES!!! THEY'RE SOME OF THE MOST COMPETITIVE PEOPLE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD!!! If guys like Scales, Dungy, etc. don't pan out as players at this level, they could very easily (especially being so far away from home) transfer to a lower division school where they'll be able to play and contribute.
To assume, 5+ months before these kids even make it to campus for their FRESHMAN YEAR that they're already worthless and wastes of scholarship offers -- regardless of the team's true intentions for offering them -- is completely unfair, short sided and lacking in maturity, patience, and perspective.
It's not like any athlete has EVER worked hard to improve his abilities and risen above players said to be better than them. No big time player has EVER had problems with grades, drugs, girls, parties, or simply taken his talents for granted and failed to work hard.
And for that matter, I find it pretty arrogant (idiotic?) to assume that because these kids got an offer they're just gonna ride it out to a degree.
THESE KIDS ARE ATHLETES!!! THEY'RE SOME OF THE MOST COMPETITIVE PEOPLE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD!!! If guys like Scales, Dungy, etc. don't pan out as players at this level, they could very easily (especially being so far away from home) transfer to a lower division school where they'll be able to play and contribute.
To assume, 5+ months before these kids even make it to campus for their FRESHMAN YEAR that they're already worthless and wastes of scholarship offers -- regardless of the team's true intentions for offering them -- is completely unfair, short sided and lacking in maturity, patience, and perspective.
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vagusnerve
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Re: Emergency DT options...
Of course you're right Glaze.
Its just frustrating to have limited scholarships and a HUGE need at DT, and then we're offering guys that would be considered subpar. Not to say they wont amount to something. But it seems like we offered them for reasons other than talent. I hope they do in fact make a positive impact on the team in the future!
Its just frustrating to have limited scholarships and a HUGE need at DT, and then we're offering guys that would be considered subpar. Not to say they wont amount to something. But it seems like we offered them for reasons other than talent. I hope they do in fact make a positive impact on the team in the future!
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The possibility is there, but your really just guessing that they are.vagusnerve wrote:Of course you're right Glaze.
Its just frustrating to have limited scholarships and a HUGE need at DT, and then we're offering guys that would be considered subpar. Not to say they wont amount to something. But it seems like we offered them for reasons other than talent. I hope they do in fact make a positive impact on the team in the future!
FYI an ESPN recruiting guy was just on 1080 the fan and he said they were very high on James Scales as an athlete. I doubt he said that just because he played with some other NC guys.
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Our problem isn't not having enough available scholarships. We can overbook. Our problem is a thin pool of DTs and missing on the ones we went after.vagusnerve wrote:Of course you're right Glaze.
Its just frustrating to have limited scholarships and a HUGE need at DT, and then we're offering guys that would be considered subpar. Not to say they wont amount to something. But it seems like we offered them for reasons other than talent. I hope they do in fact make a positive impact on the team in the future!
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Some of you are ignorant as f***.