Porter named team MVP

[duckgrad99]

Based on what, Ernie Kent's vote? This should definitely get a laugh from all duck fans.

[uostudent]

The award must have been voted on by opposing coaches. Porter was definitely the MVP for opposing teams.

I would have given the MVP to Jeremy Jacob. Jacob played well in Pac 10 play and was about as consistent as any Ducks player (not really saying much).

Malcolm Armstead had a nice season, but he was way too inconsistent.

[UOducksTK1]

No one deserved it to be honest.. But if I had to choose someone, it's easily Malcolm Armstead. 2nd leading scorer, leads the team in assists and steals, and he shoots solid percentages.

[duckz]

It's easily Porter.

Don't blame him b/c Kent didn't find another PG.
Do you remember all those times Sim penetrated and kicked it out to the shooting guard. The fact is, Porter was the best 2 guard by far, and unfortunately has also been the 2nd best PG since AB left.

Porter is a SG and may set the P10 ALL TIME record for 3s.

He has won a P10 MVP as a freshman with Leunen, Hairston, Taylor, Brooks on the same squad.

He was a large reason we made it to the Elite 8.

Do we have a lot of players in Oregon's history with these accomplishments ?

[Boom]

No one deserved it to be honest.. But if I had to choose someone, it's easily Malcolm Armstead. 2nd leading scorer, leads the team in assists and steals, and he shoots solid percentages.

+1

[duckgrad99]

It's easily Porter.

Don't blame him b/c Kent didn't find another PG.
Do you remember all those times Sim penetrated and kicked it out to the shooting guard. The fact is, Porter was the best 2 guard by far, and unfortunately has also been the 2nd best PG since AB left.

Porter is a SG and may set the P10 ALL TIME record for 3s.

He has won a P10 MVP as a freshman with Leunen, Hairston, Taylor, Brooks on the same squad.

He was a large reason we made it to the Elite 8.

Do we have a lot of players in Oregon's history with these accomplishments ?

The award was for MVP of this season. Porter was one of the least valuable. If I had to give it to anyone, it probably would have been to Jacob or maybe even Armstead. Definitely not Porter though.

[droop10]

Who cares? Those kids will all be back next year. Porter was a senior and deserves to be commended for his efforts at the school. If it's an MVP on the team in a down year where nobody particularly shined so be it. I think it's a nice gesture and I don't feel like anyone necessarily got robbed as they were all fairly inconsistent. A nice reward for the effort he put in for the school over 4 years.

[dthomas=ddixon]

Why is it so funny? TP deserves MVP just for all the undeserved blame & flack he takes. He was forced to bring the ball up & create his own shot (Hes only FIVE FREAKING SIX remember?) in an offense that was non existent. I feel bad for the kid. Had to spend 3 years as the scape goat for a coach that couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper back.

[duckgrad99]

Who cares? Those kids will all be back next year. Porter was a senior and deserves to be commended for his efforts at the school. If it's an MVP on the team in a down year where nobody particularly shined so be it. I think it's a nice gesture and I don't feel like anyone necessarily got robbed as they were all fairly inconsistent. A nice reward for the effort he put in for the school over 4 years.

It's not a big deal, but once again, this isn't an award for what a player did over 4 years. For this 1 season, Porter was awful. It's funny because usually players that have bad seasons don't win team MVP. Porter contributed to more losses than wins this season, so no, he didn't deserve any award.

[shear_j]

Why is it so funny? TP deserves MVP just for all the undeserved blame & flack he takes. He was forced to bring the ball up & create his own shot (Hes only FIVE FREAKING SIX remember?) in an offense that was non existent. I feel bad for the kid. Had to spend 3 years as the scape goat for a coach that couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper back.

Ya I felt bad for him. He started in an offense that suited his skills his freshman year and then the whole program fell down around him when everyone graduated.

I just would get frustrated when he'd force up 10 threes a game and only hit one when there may or may not have been better options. He may set the record for threes but he has to have the record for misses.

That said, I agree with TK in that nobody really deserved it. I mean TP got benched what, 2 or 3 times this yr. I feel that Armstead or Dunigan if he could've been more consistant were def the MVP's this yr.

[bellsduck]

Jeremy Jacob gets my vote.

[duckz]

Why is it so funny? TP deserves MVP just for all the undeserved blame & flack he takes. He was forced to bring the ball up & create his own shot (Hes only FIVE FREAKING SIX remember?) in an offense that was non existent. I feel bad for the kid. Had to spend 3 years as the scape goat for a coach that couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper back.

Ya I felt bad for him. He started in an offense that suited his skills his freshman year and then the whole program fell down around him when everyone graduated.

I just would get frustrated when he'd force up 10 threes a game and only hit one when there may or may not have been better options. He may set the record for threes but he has to have the record for misses.

That said, I agree with TK in that nobody really deserved it. I mean TP got benched what, 2 or 3 times this yr. I feel that Armstead or Dunigan if he could've been more consistant were def the MVP's this yr.

I share your frustration when the 3 ball is forced. However, I place that frustration on the coach and the TEAM in general. Think back the past couple years and look at our play. I have some Q for you to answer, or anybody on this thread for that matter.

1) What play have you seen the Ducks run that gives you confidence when the shot clock gets to under 10 seconds? Armstead can penetrate sometimes but is not very consistent with this yet, especially when the clock is winding down and the D is collapsing on the guards. I personally don't think he even has the conditioning to do this on a regular basis. How many times have you seen Armstead penetrate and kick with under 10 seconds? Think real hard.

2) Humph: cannot penetrate and draw on a consistent basis, esp. if nobody "bites" on the fake 3.

3) Sim: most of his passes go AWAY from the basket. He rarely creates an open look for anybody, and cannot create his own shot at this time. He relies on Armstead or Porter to break down the D b/c others cannot

4)Longmire: can sometimes create his own shot but has an inconsistent jumper and no pull-up skills at this point. He does have the skills to attack the rim and draw fouls.

5) Entire Post Play: if they can't get position for the first 30 seconds, what are the odds they force their way into the post when the D collapses, and then receive a quality pass from the perimeter

6) Foul Line: Singler. He is our best passer at the foul line at this point. (Catron had these skills but he is not avail.)

I cannot think of any other player on our team that gives us great hope when the clock is under 10 seconds and everybody is still standing on the perimeter.

7) Porter: again, collapsing D on a 5-6 inch guard = turnovers in the passing lanes or difficult shot. So, Why not let Porter pull up. If he shoots nearly 25% on a 3 in that scenario, those are fairly good odds for the potential reward of 3 pts. Remember, 33.3% on threes = 50% on twos. So, with our poor "offensive sets", we are lucky to even have an option of a 3 pointer with a prayer. This lies on Ernie and the rest of the team as much as it does on Porter.

* with all of these shortcomings listed, I still think this squad has what is needed to make the NCAAs Next Yr. Everybody will need to improve, and most will. I don't buy into the theory that post players don't improve under Kent either. Jacob has improved since the beginning of this year. Dunigan is much better than last year even though his footwork is still poor. Singler is doing great.
Kent has a lot of room to improve in regards to Xs and Os, but he should be congratulated for people he has attracted to Eugene. I find it VERY easy to cheer for our players. They appear to be quality people. I am proud to have them represent our university (minus a few BB guns). If any of you had the misfortune of being on campus with guys like David Gurley (sp?) from the Monson era (I believe), then you would understand what I am talking about.

Again, would love to hear your option as the clock goes down?