Destroyer77 wrote:Studying mechanical engineering and playing football is a pipe dream.
Ndamukong Suh pulled it off (which is why he went to Nebraska instead of Oregon).
Suh did not receive a degree in engineering. He changed his major while at Nebraska.
Actually he didn't Suh graduated with a degree in Construction Management which is in Nebraska's College of Engineering.
Can anyone explain why Oregon doesn't have engineering. I realize that OSU has engineering, but so does does Portland State. Is there some state law preventing Oregon from starting an engineering program?
Most states have engineering programs at both their state school and flagship campus.
UW/Washington State
Kansas/K-State
Colorado/Colorado State
Utah/Utah State
Michigan/Michigan State
Is the state of Oregon afraid that fewer people would want to attend OSU if UO offered engineering? The main reason OSU receives quite a bit of research money is due to their engineering program. I knew friends of friends who were from Oregon who wanted to go to UO, but also wanted to major in engineering. They didn't want to end up at OSU, so they went out of state.
“If everybody in this room just want to be real with themselves, this game could have went either way,” he said. “We turned the ball over a lot. We beat ourself. Just be real with yourself right now. We beat ourself.”
-Jameis Winston after Oregon's decisive 59-20 victory over Florida State in the Rose Bowl
Destroyer77 wrote:Studying mechanical engineering and playing football is a pipe dream.
Ndamukong Suh pulled it off (which is why he went to Nebraska instead of Oregon).
Suh did not receive a degree in engineering. He changed his major while at Nebraska.
http://www.oregonlive.com/collegefootba ... uh_in.html One of the primary reasons he chose Nebraska was because of its highly regarded engineering program and the focus the athletic department has on academics for its student-athletes. In December, Suh will graduate with a bachelor's degree in construction management, completing the five-year program in four and a half.
Is there some state law preventing Oregon from starting an engineering program?
yep.
Interesting. Can you provide more information. I haven't been able to find anything that relates to this topic.
The state of Oregon's department of education is one of the most poorly run in the country. UO and OSU should be much better schools than they already are. The state appears to be satisfied with people only obtaining a high school education (not even getting an AA from a community college). Companies don't want to locate to a state that only has a few good colleges and one great one (Reed), thus Oregon's young education population moves elsewhere after they graduate from college and don't contribute back to state.
I came to Oregon from California and would have loved to stay in state, but the poor economy didn't allow me this opportunity as there were very few professional entry-level jobs available in the state. I ended up returning to California where I am currently employed, but would have preferred staying in Oregon to help make it an even better.
“If everybody in this room just want to be real with themselves, this game could have went either way,” he said. “We turned the ball over a lot. We beat ourself. Just be real with yourself right now. We beat ourself.”
-Jameis Winston after Oregon's decisive 59-20 victory over Florida State in the Rose Bowl
Destroyer77 wrote:Studying mechanical engineering and playing football is a pipe dream.
Ndamukong Suh pulled it off (which is why he went to Nebraska instead of Oregon).
Suh did not receive a degree in engineering. He changed his major while at Nebraska.
Actually he didn't Suh graduated with a degree in Construction Management which is in Nebraska's College of Engineering.
Can anyone explain why Oregon doesn't have engineering. I realize that OSU has engineering, but so does does Portland State. Is there some state law preventing Oregon from starting an engineering program?
Most states have engineering programs at both their state school and flagship campus.
UW/Washington State
Kansas/K-State
Colorado/Colorado State
Utah/Utah State
Michigan/Michigan State
Is the state of Oregon afraid that fewer people would want to attend OSU if UO offered engineering? The main reason OSU receives quite a bit of research money is due to their engineering program. I knew friends of friends who were from Oregon who wanted to go to UO, but also wanted to major in engineering. They didn't want to end up at OSU, so they went out of state.
UO has an Architecture program which is somewhat similar?......
Probably has to do with money and the vision of the university?
Oregon's a liberal arts school and doesn't really offer much outside of that..... especially if you compare them to OSU or UW.
Destroyer77 wrote:Studying mechanical engineering and playing football is a pipe dream.
Ndamukong Suh pulled it off (which is why he went to Nebraska instead of Oregon).
Suh did not receive a degree in engineering. He changed his major while at Nebraska.
Actually he didn't Suh graduated with a degree in Construction Management which is in Nebraska's College of Engineering.
Can anyone explain why Oregon doesn't have engineering. I realize that OSU has engineering, but so does does Portland State. Is there some state law preventing Oregon from starting an engineering program?
Most states have engineering programs at both their state school and flagship campus.
UW/Washington State
Kansas/K-State
Colorado/Colorado State
Utah/Utah State
Michigan/Michigan State
Is the state of Oregon afraid that fewer people would want to attend OSU if UO offered engineering? The main reason OSU receives quite a bit of research money is due to their engineering program. I knew friends of friends who were from Oregon who wanted to go to UO, but also wanted to major in engineering. They didn't want to end up at OSU, so they went out of state.
UO has an Architecture program which is somewhat similar?......
Probably has to do with money and the vision of the university?
Oregon's a liberal arts school and doesn't really offer much outside of that..... especially if you compare them to OSU or UW.
Architecture isn't even close to Engineering. Maybe Civil Engineering is close, or certain aspects, but in general, no.
Trust me, my sister is an architect, and it's nothing like what my dad and I do.
Destroyer77 wrote:Studying mechanical engineering and playing football is a pipe dream.
Ndamukong Suh pulled it off (which is why he went to Nebraska instead of Oregon).
Suh did not receive a degree in engineering. He changed his major while at Nebraska.
Actually he didn't Suh graduated with a degree in Construction Management which is in Nebraska's College of Engineering.
Can anyone explain why Oregon doesn't have engineering. I realize that OSU has engineering, but so does does Portland State. Is there some state law preventing Oregon from starting an engineering program?
Most states have engineering programs at both their state school and flagship campus.
UW/Washington State
Kansas/K-State
Colorado/Colorado State
Utah/Utah State
Michigan/Michigan State
Is the state of Oregon afraid that fewer people would want to attend OSU if UO offered engineering? The main reason OSU receives quite a bit of research money is due to their engineering program. I knew friends of friends who were from Oregon who wanted to go to UO, but also wanted to major in engineering. They didn't want to end up at OSU, so they went out of state.
UO has an Architecture program which is somewhat similar?......
Probably has to do with money and the vision of the university?
Oregon's a liberal arts school and doesn't really offer much outside of that..... especially if you compare them to OSU or UW.
They really aren't very similar. Architecture does require some math, but engineering requires more. Engineering also requires students to take a ton of physics classes.
Yes a lot of Oregon's academic strengths lie in its liberal arts programs, but Oregon also has strong programs in Bio, Biochem, Physics, Journalism, and Accounting. Oregon has a Computer Science program, but no engineering program...
“If everybody in this room just want to be real with themselves, this game could have went either way,” he said. “We turned the ball over a lot. We beat ourself. Just be real with yourself right now. We beat ourself.”
-Jameis Winston after Oregon's decisive 59-20 victory over Florida State in the Rose Bowl
uostudent wrote:
Yes a lot of Oregon's academic strengths lie in its liberal arts programs, but Oregon also has strong programs in Bio, Biochem, Physics, Journalism, and Accounting. Oregon has a Computer Science program, but no engineering program...
I think to start and fund an engineering program would take substantially more money than those programs listed.
State funding is tight.......
and it would be tough to compete with an already established program just 45 miles north.
Boom wrote:^ I said somewhat similar It's a dummied down liberal arts version.
You do learn some basic building/engineering principles.
It's also a credit heavy 5 year program as is most engineering programs.
Bare basic only. When I went through my 5 year stint in Architecture, I had to drive to Corn Valley to take additional course work in Engineering because I wanted wanted to, not because it was required. I don't think you would convince any Architecture that their major is "a dummied down liberal arts version" of Engineering.
I do not have a link, but there was a discussion on Suh a while back on e-yuck that specifically addressed this discrepancy, and it was mentioned that the Oregon Dept. of Education specifically divided the engineering, Liberal Arts, and medical studies between the various locales, to prevent redundancy, especially between 2 programs 45 minutes apart... IMO, this would tend to lower the potential for excellence by eliminating competition.
Mediocrity sucks.
Autzen Stadium... Where great teams go to die...Hard!
woundedknees wrote:I do not have a link, but there was a discussion on Suh a while back on e-yuck that specifically addressed this discrepancy, and it was mentioned that the Oregon Dept. of Education specifically divided the engineering, Liberal Arts, and medical studies between the various locales, to prevent redundancy, especially between 2 programs 45 minutes apart... IMO, this would tend to lower the potential for excellence by eliminating competition.
Mediocrity sucks.
That's what you get when you have a government run by people who don't know anything about anything.
woundedknees wrote:I do not have a link, but there was a discussion on Suh a while back on e-yuck that specifically addressed this discrepancy, and it was mentioned that the Oregon Dept. of Education specifically divided the engineering, Liberal Arts, and medical studies between the various locales, to prevent redundancy, especially between 2 programs 45 minutes apart... IMO, this would tend to lower the potential for excellence by eliminating competition.
Mediocrity sucks.
Some studies show the cost of providing an engineering degree is roughly 40% more than a standard BA. With an woefully underfunded higher education system duplication of expensive programs is probably not a good idea. Also, does "competition" between the various schools Departments of English provide excellence?
It's a dummied down liberal arts version.
