Jerrard Randall Interview on Clarkson Super 7 & More (6/30)

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NCDucks09 wrote:Just watched that You Tube HL of Randall... WOW! Much better footwork, body control, ball release point, quick release, nice touch and power on deep throws, and looks every bit as fast as Manziel, if not faster and more agile.

Besides all those attributes, his best talent:

VISION!!! The guy runs in traffic better than some running backs, quick decision-making and anticipation.

Most impressed with his ability to find the 2nd or 3rd receiving option, buy time and deliver the ball under pressure. Something that I didn't see in the Mariota or Manziel HL's.

#1 Randall...Hope we keep his commitment over the next year until signing day.
Randall shows why he is one of the better QBs but Manziel and Mariota could be just as good if given time. I'm not sure we've seen the ceilings for the players yet. I think Manziel is better than we think since we've only seen his SO year of work and not his JR season.
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Agree with you on Manziel - look, any kid who can play basketball, baseball, golf, and football at a D-1 quality level is a super-stud. Those attributes have to translate in many ways - soft touch, accuracy, hand-eye coordination, explosivness, concentration, focus, quick minded, fast-twich muscle structure....ect. What he really needs to make him complete is a good head on his shoulders and a good work ethic. Oh yah, he has that too. He is graduating early to get to Oregon in the Spring to work hard to get ready. Baaaaam!
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UofDuck wrote:Agree with you on Manziel - look, any kid who can play basketball, baseball, golf, and football at a D-1 quality level is a super-stud. Those attributes have to translate in many ways - soft touch, accuracy, hand-eye coordination, explosivness, concentration, focus, quick minded, fast-twich muscle structure....ect. What he really needs to make him complete is a good head on his shoulders and a good work ethic. Oh yah, he has that too. He is graduating early to get to Oregon in the Spring to work hard to get ready. Baaaaam!
Him getting here early could only help get a leg up on the competition. Have any of the other QBs expressed an interest in enrolling early for spring drills?
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NCDucks09 wrote:I like Randall as well. Whose faster and more athletic of the three, Randall, Mariota, or Manziel? I've seen conflicting 40 times for all three.

I like Manziel because he's got great instincts and is an all around speed athlete. He could easily shift over to WR if needed.

I like Mariota because he's got length, height, and a cannon.

I like Randall because he combines the attributes of both the the above aforementioned. Athletic, long, and an arm.

Any of these three could be the next Pro Oregon turns out, or even two or all of them. However, who has the work ethic and intangible leadership and mental abilities to lead the team under pressure and learn how to have the game slow down for them to adjust to defenses and pick them apart....?
Manziel is the QB with probably the least skill passing, just because he's completely a run first QB and played lots of positions before. He's an athletic freak. I have a good feeling he'll end up at another position eventually (especially if we end up with 3 QBs this class).

Am I greedy to have wanted Manziel recruited as an athlete so we could end up with Randall, Mariota, and Hundley? :lol:

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In the end, I could see Manziel at another position as well, but I bet he gives em hell trying to compete at QB - and I likey

Step it up boys.
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In the clips Manziel's line seemed to breakdown on every play forcing him to run to the outside. I thought his passing on the run was exception although it looked side armed. It was incrediable how he would find a receiver whlie scrambling. Randall impressed me with the long passes and we've been missing that for a long time.

If Randall follows through and commits we are going to see some firework among the QBs with the talent and different styles. We need to remember Bennett is in the mix.
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ducksvb6 wrote:In the clips Manziel's line seemed to breakdown on every play forcing him to run to the outside. I thought his passing on the run was exception although it looked side armed. It was incrediable how he would find a receiver whlie scrambling. Randall impressed me with the long passes and we've been missing that for a long time.

If Randall follows through and commits we are going to see some firework among the QBs with the talent and different styles. We need to remember Bennett is in the mix.
The clip we've seen of Manziel is from his SO year, which was basically his 1st full year as a QB. I think that he probably had a little case of happy feet back there since he was still transitioning there. I bet if we saw his JR highlights and compared them to his SO ones, we would see some differences.
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UOducksTK1 wrote:Manziel is the QB with probably the least skill passing, just because he's completely a run first QB and played lots of positions before. He's an athletic freak. I have a good feeling he'll end up at another position eventually (especially if we end up with 3 QBs this class).

Am I greedy to have wanted Manziel recruited as an athlete so we could end up with Randall, Mariota, and Hundley? :lol:
While it's still possible Manziel ends up at a different position, saying he's "completely" a run first QB is just false. The guy threw for over 2700 yards with 19 TD's as a junior completing 60%. Randall only threw for 1500 with 17 TD's. The only tapes we've seen so far are as of Manziel as a soph and Randall as a Jr. In this case, you can't really draw any conclusions between the two by comparing tape.
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PDXShogun wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote:Manziel is the QB with probably the least skill passing, just because he's completely a run first QB and played lots of positions before. He's an athletic freak. I have a good feeling he'll end up at another position eventually (especially if we end up with 3 QBs this class).

Am I greedy to have wanted Manziel recruited as an athlete so we could end up with Randall, Mariota, and Hundley? :lol:
While it's still possible Manziel ends up at a different position, saying he's "completely" a run first QB is just false. The guy threw for over 2700 yards with 19 TD's as a junior completing 60%. Randall only threw for 1500 with 17 TD's. The only tapes we've seen so far are as of Manziel as a soph and Randall as a Jr. In this case, you can't really draw any conclusions between the two by comparing tape.
They may actually be the same type of QB since they play in different systems and may be called on to do different things withing those systems. Manziel may seem to run more but that could be due to the coaches' playcalling or him not having a lot of talent around him so he has to do both. It doesn't matter what they are doing in high school once they get to Oregon as they'll have a complete team of athletes to surround them and Chip Kelly knows the best way to use a QB's strengths and improving his weaknesses.
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PDXShogun wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote:Manziel is the QB with probably the least skill passing, just because he's completely a run first QB and played lots of positions before. He's an athletic freak. I have a good feeling he'll end up at another position eventually (especially if we end up with 3 QBs this class).

Am I greedy to have wanted Manziel recruited as an athlete so we could end up with Randall, Mariota, and Hundley? :lol:
While it's still possible Manziel ends up at a different position, saying he's "completely" a run first QB is just false. The guy threw for over 2700 yards with 19 TD's as a junior completing 60%. Randall only threw for 1500 with 17 TD's. The only tapes we've seen so far are as of Manziel as a soph and Randall as a Jr. In this case, you can't really draw any conclusions between the two by comparing tape.
True those stats are nice, but what stands out more is the 1,600 rushing yards and 33 touchdowns. But I guess I was just trying to say that Manziel has more ability to move around more then any of our other QB commits.

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True those stats are nice, but what stands out more is the 1,600 rushing yards and 33 touchdowns. But I guess I was just trying to say that Manziel has more ability to move around more then any of our other QB commits.
1 TD every 7 Carries. That is an extraordinarily good ratio for someone with over 100 carries.

Here is a question for you. Suppose Manziel were to come in and it is instantly obvious he is a Jeff Maehl or better receiver. But he is also the better QB by a slight margin. Is it better to keep the slightly better QB ahead of a QB that isn't a PAC1# quality receiver or move him to Receiver and play the slightly lesser QB.

For me QB is so important if I was the coach and I felt he was even slightly better, I wouldn't move him unless I was down on receivers even more than the 2007 injury disaster. On the other hand if he was third string or lower I might move him until the upperclassmen ahead of him left or were seriously injured (not a one game ding-up).
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UOducksTK1 wrote:
PDXShogun wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote:Manziel is the QB with probably the least skill passing, just because he's completely a run first QB and played lots of positions before. He's an athletic freak. I have a good feeling he'll end up at another position eventually (especially if we end up with 3 QBs this class).

Am I greedy to have wanted Manziel recruited as an athlete so we could end up with Randall, Mariota, and Hundley? :lol:
While it's still possible Manziel ends up at a different position, saying he's "completely" a run first QB is just false. The guy threw for over 2700 yards with 19 TD's as a junior completing 60%. Randall only threw for 1500 with 17 TD's. The only tapes we've seen so far are as of Manziel as a soph and Randall as a Jr. In this case, you can't really draw any conclusions between the two by comparing tape.
True those stats are nice, but what stands out more is the 1,600 rushing yards and 33 touchdowns. But I guess I was just trying to say that Manziel has more ability to move around more then any of our other QB commits.
But that could be due to his system's design. Compare his numbers to someone like Dennis Dixon coming out of high school. He didn't have a single rushing TD in his whole career as starting QB, but showed he was adept at doing that at Oregon when called upon. Manziel probably could have more passing yards if the plays were called for him to do that but his coach probably trusts the ball more in his hands and calls more plays for him to keep it. Until we actually see him run Oregon's offense, we truly don't know how he stacks up against Randall, Mariota, or possibly Hundley.
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UOducksTK1 wrote:
PDXShogun wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote:Manziel is the QB with probably the least skill passing, just because he's completely a run first QB and played lots of positions before. He's an athletic freak. I have a good feeling he'll end up at another position eventually (especially if we end up with 3 QBs this class).

Am I greedy to have wanted Manziel recruited as an athlete so we could end up with Randall, Mariota, and Hundley? :lol:
While it's still possible Manziel ends up at a different position, saying he's "completely" a run first QB is just false. The guy threw for over 2700 yards with 19 TD's as a junior completing 60%. Randall only threw for 1500 with 17 TD's. The only tapes we've seen so far are as of Manziel as a soph and Randall as a Jr. In this case, you can't really draw any conclusions between the two by comparing tape.
True those stats are nice, but what stands out more is the 1,600 rushing yards and 33 touchdowns. But I guess I was just trying to say that Manziel has more ability to move around more then any of our other QB commits.
Actually I take this back, I just watched his highlight video. Every single one of his passes is out side of the pocket on a broken down play. His footwork and throwing motion are awful. I guarantee the coaches are banking solely on athleticism and potential with Manziel.

What impresses me most about him is how he was able to play QB just this last season and do so well. Clearly the coaches know they can work with him and I'm still stoked about this commit.

However, he still has a long way to go before being Oregon material. In fact, of all our QBs, he seems to be the most raw. With all that being said, I still believe he has the best chance of ending up at different position.

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GrandpaDuck wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote:
True those stats are nice, but what stands out more is the 1,600 rushing yards and 33 touchdowns. But I guess I was just trying to say that Manziel has more ability to move around more then any of our other QB commits.
1 TD every 7 Carries. That is an extraordinarily good ratio for someone with over 100 carries.

Here is a question for you. Suppose Manziel were to come in and it is instantly obvious he is a Jeff Maehl or better receiver. But he is also the better QB by a slight margin. Is it better to keep the slightly better QB ahead of a QB that isn't a PAC1# quality receiver or move him to Receiver and play the slightly lesser QB.

For me QB is so important if I was the coach and I felt he was even slightly better, I wouldn't move him unless I was down on receivers even more than the 2007 injury disaster. On the other hand if he was third string or lower I might move him until the upperclassmen ahead of him left or were seriously injured (not a one game ding-up).
If that was the case, certainly I'd want him at QB. Especially since our WRs aren't even involved that much in our offense. I agree with that mindset.

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