maxduck wrote:Speaking of rankings for the OL I found the linked chart very interesting. Eight 2 star recruits made All Pac-10 first team the past three years, outnumbering the total of 4 & 5 star recruits combined. http://www.bruinsnation.com/2010/7/8/15 ... #storyjump
scewed . there just are not that many five star OL in the PAC to begin with. While there are tons of 2 and 3 stars that fill out rosters. Still, that average comes out to a 3 star.
I'll take a five star any day over a two star.
I could care less about rankings. I trust the coaches to bring in guys to give us WINS.
I'd rather have a 2* guy that brings us wins than a 5* guy that doesn't.
Not quite on topic I know, but w/ our track record of bringing in under-rated OL talent, and ANY underrated talent in general, I'm happy to bring this kid on board...
Most lineman that come in at 4-5* are already physically developed to play but they may have already reached their playing potential. Oregon has such great depth at OL that they can afford to take 2-3* recruits and let them develop. The last true freshman OL to play a game was Geoff Schwartz so not many are needed right away.
ChipKellyKapowski wrote:You guys are really nuts if you're questioning Steve Greatwood's recruiting choices - especially based on ratings from the services that are likely to fluctuate between now and signing day. If a kid has an offer TODAY, it's because the coaches really believe he can be a great player - not a serviceable backup, project, whatever. There are only so many "commitable" offers on the table right now, and this kid has one. That's all you need to know.
Amen. Out of all our positional coaches, there is no coach I have more faith in then Greatwood. He's built a strong line basically every year since I've been paying attention to the ducks.
I'm excited about any OL we land. Obviously getting a 4 star or 5 star would be funner, but no way am I stressing about this. Good pick up for the ducks.
ChipKellyKapowski wrote:You guys are really nuts if you're questioning Steve Greatwood's recruiting choices - especially based on ratings from the services that are likely to fluctuate between now and signing day. If a kid has an offer TODAY, it's because the coaches really believe he can be a great player - not a serviceable backup, project, whatever. There are only so many "commitable" offers on the table right now, and this kid has one. That's all you need to know.
Amen. Out of all our positional coaches, there is no coach I have more faith in then Greatwood. He's built a strong line basically every year since I've been paying attention to the ducks.
I'm excited about any OL we land. Obviously getting a 4 star or 5 star would be funner, but no way am I stressing about this. Good pick up for the ducks.
He did pretty well coaching the Dline too. The man can just flat out coach. On one hand I feel badly that his attempts to move up to head coaching have failed but on the other I'm glad we still have him!
eagleduck wrote:
He did pretty well coaching the Dline too. The man can just flat out coach. On one hand I feel badly that his attempts to move up to head coaching have failed but on the other I'm glad we still have him!
In an interview last year he said that the HC interview process after the 08-09 season was his 1 shot at being a Head Coach and when that didn't pan-out he decided to finish his career at Oregon doing what he loves where he love to be. He seemed to be OK with how it worked out.
I'm very glad to have him and hope he stays with the Ducks till he decided to retire in the 2020s
"Coach Roberson just happened to be talking to Bobby over in the area where the offensive linemen were working out," Bryce said. "And Jamal was doing plyometric jumps onto a 38-inch box and I saw coach Roberson do a double take when this 6-5, 285-pound kid was jumping up onto these boxes like they were nothing."
Roberson immediately asked for some game film of Prater and called Bryce the next day in search of his transcripts. Prater's 3.4 grade-point average will only increase his options.
"Coach Roberson just happened to be talking to Bobby over in the area where the offensive linemen were working out," Bryce said. "And Jamal was doing plyometric jumps onto a 38-inch box and I saw coach Roberson do a double take when this 6-5, 285-pound kid was jumping up onto these boxes like they were nothing."
Roberson immediately asked for some game film of Prater and called Bryce the next day in search of his transcripts. Prater's 3.4 grade-point average will only increase his options.
You guys do realize that *STARS* mean nothing, unless it's basically a 5 Star recruit. The statistics find no correlation between Star Rating and what the player actually produces in college and whether or not he's good enough to make it to the NFL.
Max Unger was a 2 Star. (2nd Round Draft Pick)
WTIII was a 3 Star. (5th Round Draft Pick)
Jairus Byrd was a 3 Star. (2009 NFL Rookie of the Year Runner Up)
Patrick Chung was a 2 Star. (2nd Round Draft Pick by NE)
The list goes on and on and on...
Differentiation between Stars 2-4 mean next to nothing. There is so much talent out there that it's impossible for these two sites (Rivals & Scout) to evaluate all players equally. Plus, most of the analysts aren't even football knowledge savvy.
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He's a 3* on both Rivals and Scout, Huffman said they updated him a couple weeks ago but their was a glitch in the computer and it didn't show up, but he is working on fixing it.
"Coach Roberson just happened to be talking to Bobby over in the area where the offensive linemen were working out," Bryce said. "And Jamal was doing plyometric jumps onto a 38-inch box and I saw coach Roberson do a double take when this 6-5, 285-pound kid was jumping up onto these boxes like they were nothing."
Does sound athletic. Sometimes there's some unfound gems out there..... Keep it down.. Pretty soon Florida and USC will be calling.
NCDucks09 wrote:You guys do realize that *STARS* mean nothing, unless it's basically a 5 Star recruit. The statistics find no correlation between Star Rating and what the player actually produces in college and whether or not he's good enough to make it to the NFL.
Max Unger was a 2 Star. (2nd Round Draft Pick)
WTIII was a 3 Star. (5th Round Draft Pick)
Jairus Byrd was a 3 Star. (2009 NFL Rookie of the Year Runner Up)
Patrick Chung was a 2 Star. (2nd Round Draft Pick by NE)
The list goes on and on and on...
Differentiation between Stars 2-4 mean next to nothing. There is so much talent out there that it's impossible for these two sites (Rivals & Scout) to evaluate all players equally. Plus, most of the analysts aren't even football knowledge savvy.
TJ Ward - EARLY 2nd round draft pick, was a 1* walkon.
Bigducker wrote:"Coach Roberson just happened to be talking to Bobby over in the area where the offensive linemen were working out," Bryce said. "And Jamal was doing plyometric jumps onto a 38-inch box and I saw coach Roberson do a double take when this 6-5, 285-pound kid was jumping up onto these boxes like they were nothing."
Does sound athletic. Sometimes there's some unfound gems out there..... Keep it down.. Pretty soon Florida and USC will be calling.
Athletes with measurables, who can perform physical feats outside the norms (38 inch box jumps for a guy that weights 285) and who has a GPA well over 3.4. Coaches obviously know what they are looking at and are undercutting other programs with their early offers. Hard work up front by them appears to be paying off.
