SUUUUUUUUUUCH a stupid rule! When did people forget that football is a sport and that sports are supposed to be fun?!?!greenyellow wrote:They would probably still get him for it since they are going to be looking real hard for any type of celebration penalty.
Tacoi Sumler visit updates??
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glazeduck
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Damn good find!blanco_diablo wrote:http://rise.espn.go.com/football/articl ... sparq.aspx
Tim Tebow tries his hand at reporting
During the introductions of the 24 athletes who were going to test, Denver Broncos’ rookie Tim Tebow noticed that wide receiver Tacoi Sumler flashed a University of Oregon symbol while on stage.
“Hey, that where you are going to go?” Tebow asked. “You can commit right now if you want.”
“Nah, I think I’ll wait,” Sumler said. “But I do like the Oregon Ducks. They are my No. 1 choice right now.”
“But I do like the Oregon Ducks. They are my No. 1 choice right now.” SWEET!
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The Ducks are certainly making an impression in Texas and Florida right now. They've proven they can land Texas recruits but the next step is to get the Florida recruits.briarduck wrote:Damn good find!blanco_diablo wrote:http://rise.espn.go.com/football/articl ... sparq.aspx
Tim Tebow tries his hand at reporting
During the introductions of the 24 athletes who were going to test, Denver Broncos’ rookie Tim Tebow noticed that wide receiver Tacoi Sumler flashed a University of Oregon symbol while on stage.
“Hey, that where you are going to go?” Tebow asked. “You can commit right now if you want.”
“Nah, I think I’ll wait,” Sumler said. “But I do like the Oregon Ducks. They are my No. 1 choice right now.”
“But I do like the Oregon Ducks. They are my No. 1 choice right now.” SWEET!
GO DUCKS!!

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akili1133
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We could really use a guy like this on the outside. Size isn't that big of a concern for me. Sammie Parker was a little guy and he seemed to be a pretty talented receiver. 
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glazeduck
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Sammie and Keenan Howry were (and still are) legends of Autzen (and Christian McLemore before them), however our offensive scheme has changed since their days. When running the read option, achieving the corner is crutial, and getting the corner almost always means either a crack-back block from a WR coming inside on an unsuspecting OLB/DE, or successfully walling off his corner or a safety at the next level.akili1133 wrote:We could really use a guy like this on the outside. Size isn't that big of a concern for me. Sammie Parker was a little guy and he seemed to be a pretty talented receiver.
What does this mean? Well while size specifically isn't necessary to be a good blocker, generally speaking, the bigger a wr is, the easier blocking is for him.
So yes, having turf burners will be nice, but we also need a balance of possession guys who can move the chains and help in the running game. There's a reason guys like JWill, DJ Davis, and Finley and Garren Strong all started, despite being almost complete non-factors in the passing game. They're all very good run-blockers, and currently, our offense is run-first oriented.
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Very true but our offense rely's on downfield blocking so his size is an issue but CK clearly has a plan for him (Yes he will block)...his speed and playmaking ability will be deadly!akili1133 wrote:We could really use a guy like this on the outside. Size isn't that big of a concern for me. Sammie Parker was a little guy and he seemed to be a pretty talented receiver.
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Damn you said it better than me! Don't forget his SPEED, did I mention that?glazeduck wrote:Sammie and Keenan Howry were (and still are) legends of Autzen (and Christian McLemore before them), however our offensive scheme has changed since their days. When running the read option, achieving the corner is crutial, and getting the corner almost always means either a crack-back block from a WR coming inside on an unsuspecting OLB/DE, or successfully walling off his corner or a safety at the next level.akili1133 wrote:We could really use a guy like this on the outside. Size isn't that big of a concern for me. Sammie Parker was a little guy and he seemed to be a pretty talented receiver.
What does this mean? Well while size specifically isn't necessary to be a good blocker, generally speaking, the bigger a wr is, the easier blocking is for him.
So yes, having turf burners will be nice, but we also need a balance of possession guys who can move the chains and help in the running game. There's a reason guys like JWill, DJ Davis, and Finley and Garren Strong all started, despite being almost complete non-factors in the passing game. They're all very good run-blockers, and currently, our offense is run-first oriented.
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Destroyer77
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Outside blocking has a great deal to do with heart and effort put into it. There's also quite a bit of technique that a smaller guy can utilize to gain an advantage. For example, a speed burner like Tacoi could simply run a guy downfield away from the play due to his speed threat. A quicker guy can also get a better position faster, etc. I don't buy that you have to be some 200 pounder to be a decent downfield / outside blocker in space. Effort effort effort...
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glazeduck
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No one said you HAVE to. It's just advantageous.Destroyer77 wrote:Outside blocking has a great deal to do with heart and effort put into it. There's also quite a bit of technique that a smaller guy can utilize to gain an advantage. For example, a speed burner like Tacoi could simply run a guy downfield away from the play due to his speed threat. A quicker guy can also get a better position faster, etc. I don't buy that you have to be some 200 pounder to be a decent downfield / outside blocker in space. Effort effort effort...
You're completely right that blocking is all about effort and technique and that speed can effectively be used to "block" a player out of a play, but there's simply no reason why a 6'2 200 lb wr can't use just as much technique, skill, effort and speed to block as a little guy. A larger frame means the ability to put on more muscle which also helps in blocking, as does the sheer size of the body. The fact is it's just harder to run around or through a guy who's 6'2 and 200lbs than a 5'8 165 waterbug...
Look at it this way, taking out skill or any knowledge of the players, would you rather get blocked by James Rodgers or DJ Davis?
No one's saying Tacoi wouldn't be a huge weapon in our offense, just that we ALSO need bigger wrs that can provide different abilities on the field.
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neezy3
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Hines Ward is the best blocking wr in the nfl and he's listed at 6ft 200lbs. Blocking on the outside is more about technique and desire rather than brute strength and size.
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glazeduck
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Ward is the exception, not the rule. I'd bet if you listed the next 50 best blocking WRs in college/NFL 70-85% of them would be in the AT LEAST 6'+ 195 LBS range.neezy3 wrote:Hines Ward is the best blocking wr in the nfl and he's listed at 6ft 200lbs. Blocking on the outside is more about technique and desire rather than brute strength and size.
Also, FWIW, 6'0 200 is not considered a SMALL wr in college or the Pros. Sumler in this example at 5'8 160, would be.
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glazeduck wrote:Ward is the exception, not the rule. I'd bet if you listed the next 50 best blocking WRs in college/NFL 70-85% of them would be in the AT LEAST 6'+ 195 LBS range.neezy3 wrote:Hines Ward is the best blocking wr in the nfl and he's listed at 6ft 200lbs. Blocking on the outside is more about technique and desire rather than brute strength and size.
Also, FWIW, 6'0 200 is not considered a SMALL wr in college or the Pros. Sumler in this example at 5'8 160, would be.
That is neat and all, and by most accounts I agree. But this year figures to have more passing, and you can line Sumler up anywhere and his speed would instantly create a mismatch. Even if he is coming in on obvious passing downs, he is another burner that absolutely has to be accounted for, and a deep threat on every down he is out there. Kelly will find spots for him just fine and utilize him for his strengths. I have no worries.
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Does this kid remind anyone else of James Rodgers, or is it just me? Haha this would definitely be a great addition.

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Yes...but much faster.UofO8 wrote:Does this kid remind anyone else of James Rodgers, or is it just me? Haha this would definitely be a great addition.
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We could have some of the fastest players in the conference with Lowe, James, Barner, Seastrunk, and Sumler. Even though they wouldn't be the biggest of players, it wouldn't matter people since people couldn't catch them.PDXShogun wrote:Yes...but much faster.UofO8 wrote:Does this kid remind anyone else of James Rodgers, or is it just me? Haha this would definitely be a great addition.
