SI.com - The Rise and Fall of Jeremiah Masoli

[oregontrack]

I agree completely with Meyers & Tannen, who spoke about the article on their Crunchtime show. I'm really embarrassed for the writer of this article.

[endene]

If it was Embry who stole, then why were they together at Taylor's afterwords?

[woundedknees]

"Masoli and the driver independently recall that Masoli got out of the vehicle last, and with hesitation, before the victim gave up his wallet, which according to redacted juvenile records reviewed by SI.com, contained $10 cash and a Jamba Juice card."


LOLOLOLOLOL

3 months in Juvie is a pretty expensive return on a 3 or 4 way split... The cut would have been $3.33 or less/each.

Great decision making.

[oregontrack]

Maybe I'm just a heartless bastard, but I don't feel sorry for him at all, especially his first arrest in HS. If you're a HS football star and are about to go onto bigger and better things, and you're driving along with your friend and you've got two jackasses in the back who you don't know very well and they wind up robbing a kid on the street, you look the friend that you do know straight in the eye and say, "You know I can't do this, I want no part of it" and you at least tell the crew to give the wallet back. You aren't charged with anything in this scenario.

Yes, yes, teenagers do stupid things, I'm aware. I'm not saying Masoli is a monster, but I fail to see where the sympathy comes in at. This article didn't change one iota for me: I continue to wish him well in his future endeavors.

[dthomas=ddixon]

I agree completely with Meyers & Tannen, who spoke about the article on their Crunchtime show. I'm really embarrassed for the writer of this article.

I mostly agreed with what they were saying but I think they were coming from the wrong angle. I don't think the intent of the article was to make Masoli out to be an angel who's just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Over & over. I think thats maybe thats what Masoli is trying to say though. And obviously he has even more issues if thats really what he thinks.

To me the article just made it clear that, while Masoli has a lot of character issues, like being a borderline pathalogical liar that can't own up to any of his mistakes, he's not the evil criminal that many have so eagerly tried to make him into. He needs to grow up & finally realize HE is the reason for all his troubles. But he is not a terrible human being that doesn't deserve to live.

[TriDuck]

From how it sounds in the story regarding the marijuana incident, it seems like the weed belonged to Thomas. Especially considering the fact that Masoli kept quiet regarding who's it was, because if he would've said it was Thomas's than Thomas would have no doubt gotten disciplined by Kelly as well.

[monster]

From how it sounds in the story regarding the marijuana incident, it seems like the weed belonged to Thomas. Especially considering the fact that Masoli kept quiet regarding who's it was, because if he would've said it was Thomas's than Thomas would have no doubt gotten disciplined by Kelly as well.

Masoli's last gift to the Ducks ...

[Sooth]

From how it sounds in the story regarding the marijuana incident, it seems like the weed belonged to Thomas. Especially considering the fact that Masoli kept quiet regarding who's it was, because if he would've said it was Thomas's than Thomas would have no doubt gotten disciplined by Kelly as well.

that's pure conjecture. i realize that this is an internet message board, but do we really need to go down this path over and over? did we learn nothing from reading this article about erroneous information being repeated enough times that it starts to become fact in the court of public opinion?

just stop it already. no one knows but masoli and thomas. let them decide what to do with that information.

[RanDux]

Maybe I'm just a heartless bastard, but I don't feel sorry for him at all, especially his first arrest in HS. If you're a HS football star and are about to go onto bigger and better things, and you're driving along with your friend and you've got two jackasses in the back who you don't know very well and they wind up robbing a kid on the street, you look the friend that you do know straight in the eye and say, "You know I can't do this, I want no part of it" and you at least tell the crew to give the wallet back. You aren't charged with anything in this scenario.

Yes, yes, teenagers do stupid things, I'm aware. I'm not saying Masoli is a monster, but I fail to see where the sympathy comes in at. This article didn't change one iota for me: I continue to wish him well in his future endeavors.

Bingo. In both cases Masoli's first mistake was in not taking the right stance when confronted with the situation. If he knows it's wrong why wouldn't he? Perhaps fear? I hope he takes a long hard look at why so that he doesn't ever make the mistake again.

[Destroyer77]

All the article did was prove to me what I suspected all along.... that the DA strong armed him into the lesser guilty plea. They do this because DA's need stats; they need to be able to prove to their constituents that they are highly successful at prosecuting. Malicious lawyers make me want to puke.

State law says that a DA doesn't have to present evidence to the defendant prior to arraignment? WHOA! We have got to get that changed IMMEDIATELY! That law sounds borderline unconstitutional to me, but then again many laws in Oregon to me are highly unconstitutional.

If you couldn't tell, article made me do a 180 from thinking that Masoli is 100% at fault to thinking more that it's 50/50 (Masoli / Law). Makes me kinda mad thinking about how dishonest DA's are.

[barfight]

I think if it was me in his shoes that night I would have done whatever it took to not lump myself in that incident like lie to whoever was asking me. I imagine he feared losing his opportunity to play ball and the quickest and easiest (but not the right) way was to lie. Its easy to sit at a computer and say he should have done this or that, but treat the actual moment differently. I bet he would do things different looking back.

[goducks75]

I agree completely with Meyers & Tannen, who spoke about the article on their Crunchtime show. I'm really embarrassed for the writer of this article.

I mostly agreed with what they were saying but I think they were coming from the wrong angle. I don't think the intent of the article was to make Masoli out to be an angel who's just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Over & over. I think thats maybe thats what Masoli is trying to say though. And obviously he has even more issues if thats really what he thinks.

To me the article just made it clear that, while Masoli has a lot of character issues, like being a borderline pathalogical liar that can't own up to any of his mistakes, he's not the evil criminal that many have so eagerly tried to make him into. He needs to grow up & finally realize HE is the reason for all his troubles. But he is not a terrible human being that doesn't deserve to live.

My thoughts exactly, particularly the 2nd paragraph. Oh except add something about him being a pothead. I call bullshit on him saying something to the effect that he'd be changing his weed smoking ways at the end of that article, that is unless the weed down in Mississippi is so bad that it's easy for him to do that...

[Duck07]

I agree completely with Meyers & Tannen, who spoke about the article on their Crunchtime show. I'm really embarrassed for the writer of this article.

I mostly agreed with what they were saying but I think they were coming from the wrong angle. I don't think the intent of the article was to make Masoli out to be an angel who's just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Over & over. I think thats maybe thats what Masoli is trying to say though. And obviously he has even more issues if thats really what he thinks.

To me the article just made it clear that, while Masoli has a lot of character issues, like being a borderline pathalogical liar that can't own up to any of his mistakes, he's not the evil criminal that many have so eagerly tried to make him into. He needs to grow up & finally realize HE is the reason for all his troubles. But he is not a terrible human being that doesn't deserve to live.

My thoughts exactly, particularly the 2nd paragraph. Oh except add something about him being a pothead. I call bullshit on him saying something to the effect that he'd be changing his weed smoking ways at the end of that article, that is unless the weed down in Mississippi is so bad that it's easy for him to do that...

We do have some really good bud up here. The Emerald Triangle ain't that far away...

[goducks75]

I agree completely with Meyers & Tannen, who spoke about the article on their Crunchtime show. I'm really embarrassed for the writer of this article.

I mostly agreed with what they were saying but I think they were coming from the wrong angle. I don't think the intent of the article was to make Masoli out to be an angel who's just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Over & over. I think thats maybe thats what Masoli is trying to say though. And obviously he has even more issues if thats really what he thinks.

To me the article just made it clear that, while Masoli has a lot of character issues, like being a borderline pathalogical liar that can't own up to any of his mistakes, he's not the evil criminal that many have so eagerly tried to make him into. He needs to grow up & finally realize HE is the reason for all his troubles. But he is not a terrible human being that doesn't deserve to live.

My thoughts exactly, particularly the 2nd paragraph. Oh except add something about him being a pothead. I call bullshit on him saying something to the effect that he'd be changing his weed smoking ways at the end of that article, that is unless the weed down in Mississippi is so bad that it's easy for him to do that...

We do have some really good bud up here. The Emerald Triangle ain't that far away...

Oh I'm well aware

[spinseeker]

That was a very good article I thought. It's about time we heard Masoli's side of things along with the others. It just about answers the question: why would he do this right after being on top of the world with so much to lose?

I think a lot of people have that instinct to lie and hope things go away when they first get caught or accused or linked with something. My two year old has already learned this from her older siblings

As Duck fans, we can at least take from this story some extenuating circumstances that show the guy we've been rooting for for two years maybe isn't the bad person we were led to believe.

I'm sure there are some out there that will still be glad to be rid of him and not care just because he plead guilty. I'm going to choose to forgive him for lying, I'm sure he wishes he had been honest now. I will also root for his success as he moves on.

Good luck Jeremiah.

Go ducks