Brendan Bigelow

[thegreenstain]

Good points PDXShogun.

By the way, where is Best listed at 212 lbs? As a junior, he was listed at 195 pounds on Cal's roster. He is now listed at 199 lbs on Detroit's roster.

http://www.calbears.com/sports/m-footbl ... vid00.html

http://www.detroitlions.com/team/roster ... e05dae1295

As a sophomore Best was listed at 185 pounds, so LMJ's size progression seems to be following that of Best very closely.

[thegreenstain]

McCluster is not a good example. They're totally different players. McCluster was drafted as a WR, I believe. LMJ's hands aren't very good. I still think he could have a solid career in the NFL, but I see very little chance that he leaves early.

The point is not that McCluster and LMJ are identical players. The point is that McCluster provides yet another example of NFL teams willingness to overlook a lack of ideal size if a player is fast enough and talented enough.

I agree that LMJ is going to need to display better hands than he did last season. He was praised for his ability to catch the ball in practice during his redshirt season and leading up to last season, so I don't think he is incapable of being a good receiver out of the backfield, but we shall see. He has a couple of seasons to prove he can excel at it.

[ncduck]

I'm sure he a very capable reciever out of the backfield. He just wasn't used that way last year. I think it had to do with Masoli getting happy feet sometimes which doesn't for allow routes of a back to develop.

It's funny, LMJ could be just as good in the passing game as Quiz is. We just have an offense that didn't allow for that as often over the last couple of years. It doesn't mean he needs to get "better" at it, just that we don't know what his skill level is aside from hearsay.

[buckmarkduck]

I watched practice on Tues and LMJ may be the new 50/50, he had a couple times when he was wide open and just flat dropped it. He will really need to wok on that to make it in the NFL. There aren't to many 5'8 185 lbs RB who can't catch on 3rd down playing on Sunday's.

[ncduck]

Apparently, I'm wrong. I guess we do know.

[buckmarkduck]

Oh but Barner was catching everything. Still though LMJ looks great running the ball, and he has enough athletic ability that he can learn to catch, it just takes practice and concentration.

Barner and LMJ will give teams fits this year, and don't be surprised to see Barner get 500yds rushing and 500 receiving.

[AugustDuck]

If I had to give a guess as to when LMJ would opt for the NFL draft I would guess:

2011 after his RShirt SO season 15%
2012 after his RShirt JR season 55%
2013 after his RShirt SR season 30%

[Bigducker]

If I had to give a guess as to when LMJ would opt for the NFL draft I would guess:

2011 after his RShirt SO season 15%
2012 after his RShirt JR season 55%
2013 after his RShirt SR season 30%

Uh, I'd say it's 100% after his SR season. Lol

I'd say 1-2 % after his SO season.
Maybe 20% after his JR season.

I really think he's going to stay through his Sr season, but we shall see. He's going to have to share a lot of his carries with the other talented backs kinda like USC did with their the stable of backs. Their already saying their going to incorporate Barner more in the backfield with LMJ maybe at the new tazer position. Then you add Williams and Seastrunk. There's only so many carries available.

[PDXShogun]

Good points PDXShogun.

By the way, where is Best listed at 212 lbs? As a junior, he was listed at 195 pounds on Cal's roster. He is now listed at 199 lbs on Detroit's roster.

http://www.calbears.com/sports/m-footbl ... vid00.html

http://www.detroitlions.com/team/roster ... e05dae1295

As a sophomore Best was listed at 185 pounds, so LMJ's size progression seems to be following that of Best very closely.

I saw it on a display during a TV game sometime last year. I questioned it myself. It was probably wrong

[PDXShogun]

Here's the point I was trying to make:

Lets say his ceiling in the draft is the 3rd round (Garrett Wolfe was a 3rd Round pick and he was smaller and played against lesser competition; this is realistic). If he has two more 1200-1500 yard seasons the next two years, then he's probably a 3rd round pick. At that point he would have his degree and be about as big as he's going to get. What does he come back for? Another 1200-1500yd season? What would that make him?...still a 3rd round pick. He'd be risking injury and leaving a year of getting paid on the table for no net gain.

Most people understand if a player leaves if he can be a 1st or 2nd round pick, but what if a player has maximized his draft stock even if he won't be taken in those rounds? For a RB of LMJ's size, that may be the case. Bottom line, a player should leave when he can no longer improve his draft position, regardless of the round. This is true for the RB position more than any else as you have a very small window of opportunity to make your money.

[Boom]

Good points PDXShogun.

By the way, where is Best listed at 212 lbs? As a junior, he was listed at 195 pounds on Cal's roster. He is now listed at 199 lbs on Detroit's roster.

http://www.calbears.com/sports/m-footbl ... vid00.html

http://www.detroitlions.com/team/roster ... e05dae1295

As a sophomore Best was listed at 185 pounds, so LMJ's size progression seems to be following that of Best very closely.

I saw it on a display during a TV game sometime last year. I questioned it myself. It was probably wrong

Best measured 5-10 199lbs @ the combine. CJ Spiller had similar measurements. Both players are bigger and faster than James.

[maxduck]

Here's the point I was trying to make:

Lets say his ceiling in the draft is the 3rd round (Garrett Wolfe was a 3rd Round pick and he was smaller and played against lesser competition; this is realistic). If he has two more 1200-1500 yard seasons the next two years, then he's probably a 3rd round pick. At that point he would have his degree and be about as big as he's going to get. What does he come back for? Another 1200-1500yd season? What would that make him?...still a 3rd round pick. He'd be risking injury and leaving a year of getting paid on the table for no net gain.

Most people understand if a player leaves if he can be a 1st or 2nd round pick, but what if a player has maximized his draft stock even if he won't be taken in those rounds? For a RB of LMJ's size, that may be the case. Bottom line, a player should leave when he can no longer improve his draft position, regardless of the round. This is true for the RB position more than any else as you have a very small window of opportunity to make your money.

The NCAA D-1 rushing record? Presently 6,400 yards by Ron Dayne , who obviously could have left early but stayed 4 years.

[woundedknees]

Here's the point I was trying to make:

Lets say his ceiling in the draft is the 3rd round (Garrett Wolfe was a 3rd Round pick and he was smaller and played against lesser competition; this is realistic). If he has two more 1200-1500 yard seasons the next two years, then he's probably a 3rd round pick. At that point he would have his degree and be about as big as he's going to get. What does he come back for? Another 1200-1500yd season? What would that make him?...still a 3rd round pick. He'd be risking injury and leaving a year of getting paid on the table for no net gain.

Most people understand if a player leaves if he can be a 1st or 2nd round pick, but what if a player has maximized his draft stock even if he won't be taken in those rounds? For a RB of LMJ's size, that may be the case. Bottom line, a player should leave when he can no longer improve his draft position, regardless of the round. This is true for the RB position more than any else as you have a very small window of opportunity to make your money.

The NCAA D-1 rushing record? Presently 6,400 yards by Ron Dayne , who obviously could have left early but stayed 4 years.

The Big difference between Ron Dayne and LMJ is... About 100 lbs, entering college.

Dayne was 5'10"/270 as a freshman... His NFL playing weight was more in line with Snoop, at 245. Jonathon Stewart is currently listed at 235.

Size does matter.

Gotta admit, though... If LaMike can break Dayne's NCAA record (Especially given his size, and considering the hype around some of the other so-called great PAC 10 backs, like Best and a couple of USC Heisman winners I can think of...), he will be a legend. Especially at Oregon.

[greenyellow]

Here's the point I was trying to make:

Lets say his ceiling in the draft is the 3rd round (Garrett Wolfe was a 3rd Round pick and he was smaller and played against lesser competition; this is realistic). If he has two more 1200-1500 yard seasons the next two years, then he's probably a 3rd round pick. At that point he would have his degree and be about as big as he's going to get. What does he come back for? Another 1200-1500yd season? What would that make him?...still a 3rd round pick. He'd be risking injury and leaving a year of getting paid on the table for no net gain.

Most people understand if a player leaves if he can be a 1st or 2nd round pick, but what if a player has maximized his draft stock even if he won't be taken in those rounds? For a RB of LMJ's size, that may be the case. Bottom line, a player should leave when he can no longer improve his draft position, regardless of the round. This is true for the RB position more than any else as you have a very small window of opportunity to make your money.

The NCAA D-1 rushing record? Presently 6,400 yards by Ron Dayne , who obviously could have left early but stayed 4 years.

The Big difference between Ron Dayne and LMJ is... About 100 lbs, entering college.

Dayne was 5'10"/270 as a freshman... His NFL playing weight was more in line with Snoop, at 245. Jonathon Stewart is currently listed at 235.

Size does matter.

Gotta admit, though... If LaMike can break Dayne's NCAA record (Especially given his size, and considering the hype around some of the other so-called great PAC 10 backs, like Best and a couple of USC Heisman winners I can think of...), he will be a legend. Especially at Oregon.

I just don't see him breaking Dayne's record due to splitting of carries and the design of the offense not revolving around just one player like Wisconsin's was prone to doing.

[woundedknees]

Makes you wonder... How would a player such as Snoop or Dayne do with 4 years in Chipster's "O"?

Doubt anybody with that potential ever sticks around that long.