Josh and George Atkinson Commit to Notre Dame

[karlhungis]

I watched some of the ND game this week. What stood out to me is how big of a prick Brian Kelly is.

To be a good coach you gotta be a prick. Just the way it is. Heck, that's pretty much how it's always been. Look at Saban, Meyer, Brown, Stoops, even Chip for that matter. All of them are pricks but damn good coaches.

There is a difference between being a hard ass and a prick. The way Kelly was berating Montana made him look a lot more like a prick than a hard ass.

[goducks75]

I watched some of the ND game this week. What stood out to me is how big of a prick Brian Kelly is.

To be a good coach you gotta be a prick. Just the way it is. Heck, that's pretty much how it's always been. Look at Saban, Meyer, Brown, Stoops, even Chip for that matter. All of them are pricks but damn good coaches.

Mack Brown seems like one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet....

In person, yes. Probably not in the locker room. That's what I'm told Chip is like at least (just guessing about the other guys but I've heard numerous people claim that). Heard that from a coach, a player, and a team manager (not saying who obviously and you can believe me or not. I leave that up to you). The common theme from those three, however, was the respect he still commanded despite this and I feel like it is really paying dividends now, especially after we won the Pac-10 last year.

These wouldn't be the same "sources" that Clownzano has I hope?

Nope. Saw one of the players at a party last year. The manager is one of my buddies that I hang out with down there. Once again, unlike Clownzano, I'll give you the option to believe me or not. You can take my word for it or not. I have a special feeling about this season because I know Chip commands the respect in the locker room in spite of him being a hard ass.

[greenyellow]

I watched some of the ND game this week. What stood out to me is how big of a prick Brian Kelly is.

To be a good coach you gotta be a prick. Just the way it is. Heck, that's pretty much how it's always been. Look at Saban, Meyer, Brown, Stoops, even Chip for that matter. All of them are pricks but damn good coaches.

Mack Brown seems like one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet....

In person, yes. Probably not in the locker room. That's what I'm told Chip is like at least (just guessing about the other guys but I've heard numerous people claim that). Heard that from a coach, a player, and a team manager (not saying who obviously and you can believe me or not. I leave that up to you). The common theme from those three, however, was the respect he still commanded despite this and I feel like it is really paying dividends now, especially after we won the Pac-10 last year.

These wouldn't be the same "sources" that Clownzano has I hope?

Nope. Saw one of the players at a party last year. The manager is one of my buddies that I hang out with down there. Once again, unlike Clownzano, I'll give you the option to believe me or not. You can take my word for it or not. I have a special feeling about this season because I know Chip commands the respect in the locker room in spite of him being a hard ass.

Sometimes you need to be a hard ass as a coach. They can't always be touchy feely. If they were, then they would just suck as a coach.

[liberalduck]

I watched some of the ND game this week. What stood out to me is how big of a prick Brian Kelly is.

I would agree. When his players made mistakes, he got in their faces and acted like a jerk. Now there may be times for that type of interaction, but it should be a rare occurance. It just seemed to define his whole demeanor throughout the game and obviously left a negative impression on me. In fact, I don't think I will play for him if he recruits me.

[Elduderino]

I watched some of the ND game this week. What stood out to me is how big of a prick Brian Kelly is.

I would agree. When his players made mistakes, he got in their faces and acted like a jerk. Now there may be times for that type of interaction, but it should be a rare occurance. It just seemed to define his whole demeanor throughout the game and obviously left a negative impression on me. In fact, I don't think I will play for him if he recruits me.

I would disagree with both of you. He comes off as an intense football coach and frankly it's refreshing to see that at ND instead of the sense of entitlement that seemed to reek from the program the last few years. I honestly think that for some it doesn't matter who coaches at ND; they won't like them either way.

[Destroyer77]

Keep in mind that the definition of "hard ass" will be a little bit different for everyone.

[JTinKC]

Have these guys watched ND play this and the past couple of years? It is so annoying that a team like ND can do nothing and yet get as much attention as they do. They pull in pretty solid recruits but yet struggle every year.

[Duck07]

Keep in mind that the definition of "hard ass" will be a little bit different for everyone.

Also, he might be yelling, but what he's saying is more important. i highly doubt he's telling montana he's a moron, but something more like "how many times have we said that you need to key the safety pre-snap or you don't throw to that route" etc.

now red face stoops is a whole other issue, he just is angry at everything

[greenyellow]

Keep in mind that the definition of "hard ass" will be a little bit different for everyone.

Also, he might be yelling, but what he's saying is more important. i highly doubt he's telling montana he's a moron, but something more like "how many times have we said that you need to key the safety pre-snap or you don't throw to that route" etc.

now red face stoops is a whole other issue, he just is angry at everything

That's what you really have to take into consideration when a coach is yelling at you. Coaches that I've had growing up playing sports only yelled to instruct, not to tear down personally. It's when a coach stops yelling and talking to you during practices and games is when you know they don't care about you anymore.

[karlhungis]

Keep in mind that the definition of "hard ass" will be a little bit different for everyone.

Also, he might be yelling, but what he's saying is more important. i highly doubt he's telling montana he's a moron, but something more like "how many times have we said that you need to key the safety pre-snap or you don't throw to that route" etc.

now red face stoops is a whole other issue, he just is angry at everything

You could read his lips and what he was yelling was along the lines of "What the F@ck was that?!?!" It was far more about berating him than teaching him. During his half time discussion with the reporter, he also put Montana down saying that coaching isn't the issue and that it was basically all on the QB.

I know a bit about leadership and I really despise Kelly's style.

[dthomas=ddixon]

Brian Kelly is an A-hole. He ditched his player at Cincy before their bowl game & none of them had anything nice to say about him. Seriously, there were quotes from multiple players & all of them had nothing but nad things to say about him. A bunch of them got up & left the room when he announced he was leaving for ND.

Chip is tough on his guys & not nearly as easy going as a guy like Bellotti but I guarantee just about every guy on the team loves him & would do anything for him. He loves his players, just look at how he handled Blount. He took a ton of heat for the kid.

[Duck07]

Brian Kelly is an A-hole. He ditched his player at Cincy before their bowl game & none of them had anything nice to say about him. Seriously, there were quotes from multiple players & all of them had nothing but nad things to say about him. A bunch of them got up & left the room when he announced he was leaving for ND.

Chip is tough on his guys & not nearly as easy going as a guy like Bellotti but I guarantee just about every guy on the team loves him & would do anything for him. He loves his players, just look at how he handled Blount. He took a ton of heat for the kid.

I don't rip on any coach that gets a new job and leaves before the bowl game; if i was a player on the team, i sure wouldn't want him coaching that game.