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Duck24 wrote:Guess that means the Green de-commit rumors are likely proving true.

StevensTechU wrote:

dthomas=ddixon wrote:Like others have touched on, it feels like the first QB we've gotten in awhile that is actually a great passer and not simply an athletic talent that we hope to develop. So far that hasn't worked out too well and the main reason we are in the QB situation we are at the moment.

Not a Chris Harper/Damion Hobbs/Ty Griffin/Daryle Hawkins (as a QB) fan?

I kid

srsmiley007 wrote:

StevensTechU wrote:

dthomas=ddixon wrote:Like others have touched on, it feels like the first QB we've gotten in awhile that is actually a great passer and not simply an athletic talent that we hope to develop. So far that hasn't worked out too well and the main reason we are in the QB situation we are at the moment.

Not a Chris Harper/Damion Hobbs/Ty Griffin/Daryle Hawkins (as a QB) fan?

I kid

You better not jinx it:)

On a serious note, here's his career stats (5 games):
2015 - Compl. Percentage - 66.1% / TD's 14 - INT 2 / Passing yards 1,212 - Games played 4
2014 - Compl. Percentage - 72 % / TDs 5 - INT 0 / Passing yards 298 - Games played 1 and a quarter?(I think he got injured at the beginning of his 2nd start)

Any non-believers out there? Do you think anyone on the staff is upset over losing Seth Green:) I believe that he might be the single best "get" in this recruiting class.

srsmiley007 wrote:

lukeyrid13 wrote:He looks pretty raw just like terry wilson. Yes, he does a great job of scrambling and.extending plays but his feet are always moving; in a negative way. He rarely sets and plants and is often dancing in the pocket and throws off his back foot. He has really good touch but having pocket presence and zip is what.sets you apart in college.

He has potential certainly but I would be surprised if he saw the field in the next few years. His size and skill set could pay dividends down the road though.

I reviewed the film and don't agree at all. These are inertia movements and with the exception of having 2 or 3 defenders dropped on him doesn't throw off his back foot. I'm not sure if you've coached or played before but your assessment isn't accurate.

They don't have a single read offense so inertia movements assist with mobility and designed to keep the body aligned with the routes as he groes through progressions. When he has single read throws (not many per the film) he doesn't have happy feet. Don't confuse happy feet with inertia movements. With exception to the route tree, their passing offense is similiar to ours and he sets before he throws every time. For a kid to be at 65% completions with an Oline that is sieve is impressive. He has a cannon arm that is extremely accurate. He makes throws to the appropriate shoulder which is very unique for this level of football. Watch the film again, it's extremely impressive. His skill is beyond Terry Wilson's and the types of throws he makes (under duress), reads and pocket awareness is unique. Watch how many routes are predetermined and how many are 3 or 4 in progression. Once your done with that, go to Terry Wilsons film. Huge difference. This is another diamond in the rough (like MM). This is the first QB I've seen in their recruiting since MM that I've liked. TJ has a decent deep ball but long delivery. He didn't appear to have accuracy I'm seeing from this kid though. It's impressive. Almost all of the throws he makes can only be caught by his receiver.

FYI - There's a reason we dumped Green in favor of this unranked kid. The points shared above are the reason. Had he played more than 3-4 games last year before getting injured he would've already been in the fold. At an Oregon HS, without camp exposure, he isn't going to get more than 2-3 stars. He was completely off the radar screen of all the serious players. This kid is a winner, a top pitcher for the state champion Irish, he bypassed camp exposure to support his team in their pursuit of a championship. He plays Basketball as well and won the state championship as a sophomore (missed last season due to football injury). This kid has a winning mindset and appears to be great at almost any sport. This is what you need. This is what we need.

dthomas=ddixon wrote:Love this pickup. Like others have touched on, it feels like the first QB we've gotten in awhile that is actually a great passer and not simply an athletic talent that we hope to develop. So far that hasn't worked out too well and the main reason we are in the QB situation we are at the moment.

I also love that he's a Eugene kid.

SuperDuck wrote:This is a BIG "wait and see" recruit. The kid has skills, is a winner and the fact that he's local makes him popular with most fans. My biggest question is about the strength of competition he's faced. Oregon high schools aren't loaded with talent like many recruits from Texas, California, Florida, etc. Football isn't the biggest focus of kids lives like it is in many areas of the south. Also, the population base isn't as big as many other areas with bigger leagues.

I recall an excellent Sheldon team playing a top Washington team (Skyline) a few years back and losing 21-0. The vaunted Irish offense was completely shut down.

I'm not trying to be negative about the kid. I'd like to see him do well, too. I just look at the facts. Seth Green is a good example. The kid did really well at QB in Minnesota, but has really struggled in Texas.

My take is "we'll see".

SuperDuck wrote:This is a BIG "wait and see" recruit. The kid has skills, is a winner and the fact that he's local makes him popular with most fans. My biggest question is about the strength of competition he's faced. Oregon high schools aren't loaded with talent like many recruits from Texas, California, Florida, etc. Football isn't the biggest focus of kids lives like it is in many areas of the south. Also, the population base isn't as big as many other areas with bigger leagues.

I recall an excellent Sheldon team playing a top Washington team (Skyline) a few years back and losing 21-0. The vaunted Irish offense was completely shut down.

I'm not trying to be negative about the kid. I'd like to see him do well, too. I just look at the facts. Seth Green is a good example. The kid did really well at QB in Minnesota, but has really struggled in Texas.

My take is "we'll see".

UofDuck wrote:

SuperDuck wrote:This is a BIG "wait and see" recruit. The kid has skills, is a winner and the fact that he's local makes him popular with most fans. My biggest question is about the strength of competition he's faced. Oregon high schools aren't loaded with talent like many recruits from Texas, California, Florida, etc. Football isn't the biggest focus of kids lives like it is in many areas of the south. Also, the population base isn't as big as many other areas with bigger leagues.

I recall an excellent Sheldon team playing a top Washington team (Skyline) a few years back and losing 21-0. The vaunted Irish offense was completely shut down.

I'm not trying to be negative about the kid. I'd like to see him do well, too. I just look at the facts. Seth Green is a good example. The kid did really well at QB in Minnesota, but has really struggled in Texas.

My take is "we'll see".

That's true SuperDuck, but this kid has tangibles that fit. If the 95 mph fastball claim is true, he has a serious arm. He has size and as decent speed. Those are known and gives him a huge leg up on at the D-1 level over a what one might expect from a typical Oregon HS QB that plays and wins with heart and craftiness. It looks like this kid might have both heart and measurables. I read where he's won pretty big in several sports and gave up camp invites to do so. If the kid punts, kicks, plays bball and baseball decently, he has coordination too.

I realize it's never a sure bet and we should temper excitement because moving from average competition in HS to big-time D1 is a huge jump and so many can't make the leap, but this kid seems to really line up well for success.. He even runs a read option at his HS - bonus.