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Re: 'Other Guys' Recruiting Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:59 am
by UOducksTK1
StevensTechU wrote:Two Jefferson H.S. (Portland, OR) kids made their commitments yesterday.

High 3* (.8843) RB Damir Collins committed to Oregon State. He's a short, thickly-built RB who has all the tools to be successful at the Pac-12 level with speed, balance, vision, and shiftiness. Solid get for the Beavers.

Also committing was low 4* (.8956) Nathan Rawlins-Kibonge, who was previously committed to Wazzu as a basketball player. Football programs love his size at 6'7, 240. Right now he's just a big body and raw talent; high risk, high potential for suitors. I'll be curious to see how big of a jump he makes between his Jr and Sr years. Noteworthy is that uw thought they had a chance here, though Stanford probably would have been the pick if he stayed on the west coast.
I hope Nathan Rawlins-Kibonge isn't one we let get away.

Re: 'Other Guys' Recruiting Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:04 am
by StevensTechU
Duck07 wrote:I've called a game of Vidlak's and frankly I think being in Corvallis is a better fit for him and his style of game. HV is back up at 4A this year so he'll get some tougher games
Do you mean because of mobility, or something else?

Oregon's in a tight spot, in my opinion. The best young thrower on the roster is Jay Butterfield, who is pretty immobile. Robby Ashford is the most athletic, but is not a college level passer at this point. Cale Millen seems to be some mix of both. They don't really have a guy who's an ideal fit for the offense and who is also a great passer on the roster.

Re: 'Other Guys' Recruiting Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:34 pm
by Duck07
StevensTechU wrote:
Duck07 wrote:I've called a game of Vidlak's and frankly I think being in Corvallis is a better fit for him and his style of game. HV is back up at 4A this year so he'll get some tougher games
Do you mean because of mobility, or something else?

Oregon's in a tight spot, in my opinion. The best young thrower on the roster is Jay Butterfield, who is pretty immobile. Robby Ashford is the most athletic, but is not a college level passer at this point. Cale Millen seems to be some mix of both. They don't really have a guy who's an ideal fit for the offense and who is also a great passer on the roster.
From what I've seen from Jonathan Smiths offense, Vidlak's games matches what he wants in a QB. While I don't know what we're going to see in our new offense, I do know we have amplified our recruiting level and that for Vidlak, it's probably more likely that he starts for 2-3 years in Corvallis than Eugene from the competition he will face.

So much less about whether he's good enough for us and more about what's best for him. We may not even get a chance to see what our new offense even looks like with everything going on.

Re: 'Other Guys' Recruiting Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:48 am
by GoDucksTroll
Looks like Washington will be getting a commit from this kid: https://247sports.com/Player/Maurice-Heims-46083192/

Some fun facts:

* 18 year old HS junior.

* Played JV football last year, because he's an international transfer from Germany that didn't get enrolled in time.

I'm loving how Jimmy Lake and his crappy hires are recruiting. Maybe hiring one too many DB coaches, keeping Pete's worst recruiters, promoting a TE assistant, and then hiring a failed OC who was working as a gopher in the NFL weren't the best choices. Just the best timeline.

That, and getting a Big Sky QB transfer (a 26 year old one on top of that) is making it look like the accelerated end of the Helfrich tenure but without the past success.

Re: 'Other Guys' Recruiting Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:59 am
by partytime1667
A lot of posters on UWDawgPound think they will flip a ton of guys once campus visits are allowed. However, who knows if visits will happen this cycle and why would you feel good about your chances when you're constantly playing catch-up to the other guys? Some other posters are very worried about that coaching staff and feel like this iteration of Husky Football is on the downslope.

Re: 'Other Guys' Recruiting Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:44 pm
by GoDucksTroll
partytime1667 wrote:A lot of posters on UWDawgPound think they will flip a ton of guys once campus visits are allowed. However, who knows if visits will happen this cycle and why would you feel good about your chances when you're constantly playing catch-up to the other guys? Some other posters are very worried about that coaching staff and feel like this iteration of Husky Football is on the downslope.
The "we're going to flip everyone" strategy is a bold one, lets see how it pays off. This is just their sunshine pumpers and mods trying to give them hope. Lake and his staff have no idea what they're doing. Pete was really the engine of that operation.

Re: 'Other Guys' Recruiting Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:20 pm
by StevensTechU
I would've thought that recruiting would've continued to perform at recent average. Lake was Peterson's best recruiter, and the staff (including Lake) should've had plenty of time to learn what made Pete successful.

Maybe their failings on the recruiting trail are because they're on the downswing overall, and would've happened with or without Peterson?

Re: 'Other Guys' Recruiting Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:21 pm
by partytime1667
I tend to agree. Even posters on Hardcore Husky are recognizing that the Duck coaches are outworking UWs on the trail and think this class is a lost cause.

Re: 'Other Guys' Recruiting Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:03 am
by jimmy12
Does the unrest / anarchy in Seattle impact recruiting? Strange to ask but safety of someone’s child must be questioned... right?

Re: 'Other Guys' Recruiting Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:22 am
by StevensTechU
jimmy12 wrote:Does the unrest / anarchy in Seattle impact recruiting? Strange to ask but safety of someone’s child must be questioned... right?
Highly doubt it. The south is known for racism, yet they out-recruit everyone. Point being, I don't think social issues/events have any bearing on recruiting.

Re: 'Other Guys' Recruiting Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:03 am
by lukeyrid13
UOducksTK1 wrote:
StevensTechU wrote:Two Jefferson H.S. (Portland, OR) kids made their commitments yesterday.

High 3* (.8843) RB Damir Collins committed to Oregon State. He's a short, thickly-built RB who has all the tools to be successful at the Pac-12 level with speed, balance, vision, and shiftiness. Solid get for the Beavers.

Also committing was low 4* (.8956) Nathan Rawlins-Kibonge, who was previously committed to Wazzu as a basketball player. Football programs love his size at 6'7, 240. Right now he's just a big body and raw talent; high risk, high potential for suitors. I'll be curious to see how big of a jump he makes between his Jr and Sr years. Noteworthy is that uw thought they had a chance here, though Stanford probably would have been the pick if he stayed on the west coast.
I hope Nathan Rawlins-Kibonge isn't one we let get away.
One of our new recruiting coordinators used to coach him, so we weren’t allowed to recruit him even if we wanted to.

Re: 'Other Guys' Recruiting Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:13 am
by punizhr02
It looks like Washington found a true diamond in the rough. The kid doesn't even have a 247 rating

https://247sports.com/Player/Siaosi-Finau-46102740/

Washington looks to be his only offer

Re: 'Other Guys' Recruiting Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:42 am
by GoDucksTroll
punizhr02 wrote:It looks like Washington found a true diamond in the rough. The kid doesn't even have a 247 rating

https://247sports.com/Player/Siaosi-Finau-46102740/

Washington looks to be his only offer
What a dumpster fire. They offered a much better in-state DT (Jacob Schuster, who is a 4* in 247's own rankings not the composite) but they offered him a gray shirt. The next week he got full ride offers from Stanford and Cal.

Instead they took a kid with no FBS offers. I'm loving this, Jimmy Lake is going to tank Washington way faster than I thought.

Re: 'Other Guys' Recruiting Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:45 am
by jimmy12
I mean, if it were us, we would say “trust the coaches.”

Re: 'Other Guys' Recruiting Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:47 am
by GrantDuck
StevensTechU wrote:
Duck07 wrote:I've called a game of Vidlak's and frankly I think being in Corvallis is a better fit for him and his style of game. HV is back up at 4A this year so he'll get some tougher games
Do you mean because of mobility, or something else?

Oregon's in a tight spot, in my opinion. The best young thrower on the roster is Jay Butterfield, who is pretty immobile. Robby Ashford is the most athletic, but is not a college level passer at this point. Cale Millen seems to be some mix of both. They don't really have a guy who's an ideal fit for the offense and who is also a great passer on the roster.
Shough should be pretty good.

Ty Thompson is coming.