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Re: Blazers

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:49 am
by UOducksTK1
duck55 wrote:
lukeyrid13 wrote:I view Leonard as a relatively safe pick. He'll be a serviceable center but never gonna be an all-star. I'm torn if that is what I'd want out of the 11th pick
That's more than we got from a #1 pick ;)
+1, if we ever get a #1 pick again, I really hope we just straight up trade it for the 2nd pick.

Re: Blazers

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:12 pm
by greenyellow
UOducksTK1 wrote:
duck55 wrote:
lukeyrid13 wrote:I view Leonard as a relatively safe pick. He'll be a serviceable center but never gonna be an all-star. I'm torn if that is what I'd want out of the 11th pick
That's more than we got from a #1 pick ;)
+1, if we ever get a #1 pick again, I really hope we just straight up trade it for the 2nd pick.
Or go keep it and just go against their natural instinct of picking what they need. Seems like drafting the best player available is typically better than drafting for need.

Re: Blazers

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:39 pm
by oregontrack
oden was the best player available.

Re: Blazers

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:33 pm
by greenyellow
oregontrack wrote:oden was the best player available.
I'd argue that I thought Durant was that year.

Re: Blazers

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:42 pm
by Phenom
greenyellow wrote:
oregontrack wrote:oden was the best player available.
I'd argue that I thought Durant was that year.
Nope, Oden was the unanimous #1. Durant would've been #1 in most years, though. People forget how good Oden was and could have been.

Re: Blazers

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:05 pm
by oregontrack
yep. every single gm in the nba would have taken oden. he was the once-in-a-generation center, durant was viewed more as an above-average scoring wing.

Re: Blazers

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:25 pm
by UOducksTK1

Re: Blazers

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:29 pm
by UOducksTK1

Re: Blazers

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:08 am
by ncduck
I didn't have many opportunities o watch Drummond in college, but I noticed in the workout video that he wasn't really extending his arms and attacking when going up for a rebound.

That's really not a big deal, and can be taught. I just thought it was interesting considering rebounding is considered a strength of his.

Re: Blazers

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:45 am
by lukeyrid13
He actually averaged fewer than 8 rebounds a game and wasn't in the top 100 in the country for rebounds. He has the body to be a top rebounder but guys like Thomas Robinson averaged 5 more rebounds a game than Drummond did. If he can get the desire to get nasty on the boards than he will at least be a double double player

Re: Blazers

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:37 pm
by Boom
lukeyrid13 wrote:He actually averaged fewer than 8 rebounds a game and wasn't in the top 100 in the country for rebounds. He has the body to be a top rebounder but guys like Thomas Robinson averaged 5 more rebounds a game than Drummond did. If he can get the desire to get nasty on the boards than he will at least be a double double player
Ya, at the very least I think he's a starting caliber center for the Blazers.

He has the size/athleticism and shot blocking ability (2.7pg) to be a defensive presence on the court. I think he will likely average 8-10 rebounds, especially if he can improve his motor.

His offensive production will be limited to mostly offensive rebound put backs and lob passes for the first few years.

I think he's the best player & best fit that has a chance to fall to #6

Re: Blazers

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:41 pm
by UOducksTK1
Boom wrote:
lukeyrid13 wrote:He actually averaged fewer than 8 rebounds a game and wasn't in the top 100 in the country for rebounds. He has the body to be a top rebounder but guys like Thomas Robinson averaged 5 more rebounds a game than Drummond did. If he can get the desire to get nasty on the boards than he will at least be a double double player
Ya, at the very least I think he's a starting caliber center for the Blazers.

He has the size/athleticism and shot blocking ability (2.7pg) to be a defensive presence on the court. I think he will likely average 8-10 rebounds, especially if he can improve his motor.

His offensive production will be limited to mostly offensive rebound put backs and lob passes for the first few years.

I think he's the best player & best fit that has a chance to fall to #6
I'm really nervous about taking a big with lots of upside and not much college play to back it up. I really love Drummond, but I'm not so sure that's the route Portland should take. I'd rather see us snag a PG or Kidd-Gilchrist/Barnes with the #6 pick. and get a center via fa/trade or perhaps with our later pick.

I really like the Weber State guy tbh.

Re: Blazers

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:53 pm
by Boom
UOducksTK1 wrote:
Boom wrote:
lukeyrid13 wrote:He actually averaged fewer than 8 rebounds a game and wasn't in the top 100 in the country for rebounds. He has the body to be a top rebounder but guys like Thomas Robinson averaged 5 more rebounds a game than Drummond did. If he can get the desire to get nasty on the boards than he will at least be a double double player
Ya, at the very least I think he's a starting caliber center for the Blazers.

He has the size/athleticism and shot blocking ability (2.7pg) to be a defensive presence on the court. I think he will likely average 8-10 rebounds, especially if he can improve his motor.

His offensive production will be limited to mostly offensive rebound put backs and lob passes for the first few years.

I think he's the best player & best fit that has a chance to fall to #6
I'm really nervous about taking a big with lots of upside and not much college play to back it up. I really love Drummond, but I'm not so sure that's the route Portland should take. I'd rather see us snag a PG or Kidd-Gilchrist/Barnes with the #6 pick. and get a center via fa/trade or perhaps with our later pick.

I really like the Weber State guy tbh.
I like those two small forwards as well, but I think they're likely gone.

The reason why I think they would take Drummond over lillard is that there are probably 10-15 obtainable PG's available through free agency or trade. That's not the case with big men especially ones with high upside like Drummond.

At the very least he will give them a defensive presence to take the pressure off of Lamarcus.

Re: Blazers

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:09 pm
by lukeyrid13
If Drummond is there at 6 they'll take him and then probably just try and move up to 8-9 for Lillard. It'd be a lot easier to move up to get Lillard than Drummond

Re: Blazers

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:46 pm
by Boom
Potential free agent PG targets

Deron Williams - The prize of free agency
Steve Nash - Has another 3 allstar level years in him
Andre Miller - No more Nate
Aaron Brooks - Was the starter on a good Houston playoff team
Jameer Nelson - Not a big fan
D.J. Augustin - meh
George Hill - Solid starter, Indiana would probably match
Goran Dragic - Houston will likely let him or Kyle Lowry go
Randy Foye - meh
Mo Williams - serviceable
Ramon Sessions - serviceable
Jeremy Lin - Linsanity?
John Lucas - filled in nicely for Derick Rose

Darren Collison and Eric Bledsoe will most likely be moved via trade this offseaon as well.