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Re: Kent's Future At Oregon Will Be Known Soon

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:02 pm
by Boom
cordy02c wrote:wilson said today that if ernie is fired he will not come to oregon. that;s bad news
quoted in this article http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/si ... /story.csp

Re: Kent's Future At Oregon Will Be Known Soon

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:07 pm
by duckgrad99
cordy02c wrote:wilson said today that if ernie is fired he will not come to oregon. that;s bad news


I think that's a little ridiculous, but that's his decision. Either way, I still want Kent gone. Enough is enough.

Re: Kent's Future At Oregon Will Be Known Soon

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:31 pm
by pudgejeff
I don't think that's ridiculous at all

Re: Kent's Future At Oregon Will Be Known Soon

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:38 pm
by Tray Dub
duckgrad99 wrote:
cordy02c wrote:wilson said today that if ernie is fired he will not come to oregon. that;s bad news


I think that's a little ridiculous, but that's his decision. Either way, I still want Kent gone. Enough is enough.
Why?

Re: Kent's Future At Oregon Will Be Known Soon

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:11 pm
by duckgrad99
Tray Dub wrote:
duckgrad99 wrote:
cordy02c wrote:wilson said today that if ernie is fired he will not come to oregon. that;s bad news


I think that's a little ridiculous, but that's his decision. Either way, I still want Kent gone. Enough is enough.
Why?


Because I think the team would be better with another coach. Personal relationships are important, but so is winning and helping players prepare to play at the next level. Is getting along with Kent really more important than having the program move in a positive direction? I don't think so. Plus, I would hope that someone like Wilson has more reasons than Kent to want to play for Oregon and live in Eugene. If the coach is really that much of an issue,maybe Wilson should have gone to Michigan State and played for Izzo. It's nice that Kent can sell these guys on graduation rates and maybe religion, but Wilson is kidding himself if he thinks playing for Kent will make him a better basketball player than another coach would. It might take 4 years for a player to develop under Kent, and 1 or 2 to develop at a top school. Just look at several of our players in the past, especially big men.

Re: Kent's Future At Oregon Will Be Known Soon

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:19 pm
by duckgrad99
I also want to add that no 1 player is bigger than a program. If we lose Wilson because of a new coach, so be it. The football team probably lost several recruits because of the coaching changes. You cannot be afraid to make moves, especially on the basis of 1 or 2 recruits. Wilson also probably doesn't know the environment that the current players have played in the last few years. They might not say it, but some of the current players might actually welcome a coaching change.

Re: Kent's Future At Oregon Will Be Known Soon

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:37 pm
by dthomas=ddixon
To not fire a coach because of one kid is absolutely stupid. The kids never played a second of D-1 ball & we're willing to let our program suffer just to keep him? I sure hope not.

I'm sure Wilson will be a tremendous player but with Kent here how much will he really do for us? Have one good year like all our top recruits? Be really good & take off after only one year? Bring in a great coach & he does 10x more for your program than any player could do.

Re: Kent's Future At Oregon Will Be Known Soon

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:20 am
by blackjack17
Fire Kent if you think you can do better, but right now i'm not so sure there is much out there that is better than what we have right now. Give him one more year, if it fails you have quality recruits and a brand new stadium to attract somebody. Next year i'd look at Ken McDonald (WKU), who if he has a good year next year will definitely be looking to move to a bigger school.

Re: Kent's Future At Oregon Will Be Known Soon

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:11 am
by Tray Dub
blackjack17 wrote:Fire Kent if you think you can do better, but right now i'm not so sure there is much out there that is better than what we have right now. Give him one more year, if it fails you have quality recruits and a brand new stadium to attract somebody. Next year i'd look at Ken McDonald (WKU), who if he has a good year next year will definitely be looking to move to a bigger school.
He's also 38 and has a 100% graduation rate. I like McDonald a lot. And I 100% agree with this post. One more chance for Kent

Re: Kent's Future At Oregon Will Be Known Soon

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:22 am
by Autzenoise
You guys that want to keep Kent, use these questions as a barameter (sp).

When was the last time that Ernie was recruited by another school? When was the last time we heard that he was a candidate for any open position?

Isn't this a true, unquestionable way to see his value?

Re: Kent's Future At Oregon Will Be Known Soon

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:30 am
by quackattack
you also have to consider that the guy you bring in can recruit. we know Few has done that but some of these other names that have been mentioned i don't know, it'd be a gamble. i'm on board with get Few if he wants to come, if not keep Kent and ALL our players. thats just how i feel, i understand others have different opinions

Re: Kent's Future At Oregon Will Be Known Soon

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:40 am
by Boom
I have no problem letting Kent go, but you better be Damn sure that you can replace him with someone better and I think some of you are delusional on the type of coach we can get. More than likely we would have to take a chance on a small school coach and at this point in time I think that's risky. I think one more year would be ideal.

Re: Kent's Future At Oregon Will Be Known Soon

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:56 am
by droop10
Yes, people are delusional in who Oregon can get to come here. Few is likely as big a name as they will be able to get, and I would be happy with that. I'm content either way. I can handle Kent another year, or I wouldn't mind Few. Like another Pac-10 coach said, Kent does his best work with his back against the wall, so I wouldn't be shocked to see them have a decent year next year. Especially with the year of experience under the freshmen's belts.

Re: Kent's Future At Oregon Will Be Known Soon

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:28 am
by duckgrad99
Autzenoise wrote:You guys that want to keep Kent, use these questions as a barameter (sp).

When was the last time that Ernie was recruited by another school? When was the last time we heard that he was a candidate for any open position?

Isn't this a true, unquestionable way to see his value?


I think that's an excellent point.

Re: Kent's Future At Oregon Will Be Known Soon

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:30 am
by Tray Dub
Autzenoise wrote:You guys that want to keep Kent, use these questions as a barameter (sp).

When was the last time that Ernie was recruited by another school? When was the last time we heard that he was a candidate for any open position?

Isn't this a true, unquestionable way to see his value?
Not really, for a few reasons. First of all, I think everybody knows Kent wouldn't leave Oregon so the rumors never start up because he likely rejects any interest immediately. He's said a million times this is his dream job. Second, we wouldn't necessarily know if he was getting looked at if it was just in the preliminary stages. For rumors to start up would mean the interest was reciprocated, and I don't think Kent would show interest in most other jobs. I think a better measurement of his value are the things he's actually done here. Some look at his record and say he should be gone, some say he shouldn't. But that's what you should be looking at.