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Re: How do the ducks finish?

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:23 pm
by GoDucksTroll
DJ Johnson tweeted that his brother PJ graduated and is eligible to grad transfer. PJ was a JuCo guy that was REALLY good at Arizona as a DT this season. In 9 games he had 31 tackles, including 8.5 TFL and 3 sacks. He looked fantastic when playing us this season. Reports out of Arizona are that he's staying in Tucson, but he would be a great addition to provide depth in the middle of the line.

Re: How do the ducks finish?

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:09 pm
by lukeyrid13
I don’t think Bru McCoy ever even visited us, did he?

Kyle Ford we have a small chance at. I don’t think we have a shot with McCoy at all.

Re: How do the ducks finish?

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:06 pm
by duck58
GrandpaDuck wrote:
StevensTechU wrote:The late signing period is as much about finding those guys who came on strong as seniors and haven't been uncovered yet as it is about trying to land those big names, IMO.
Agreed. There are many players who come out of nowhere to become dominant high school players in their Senior years. The process of getting to know guys you hadn't paid attention to until a month or two ago fits into the late signing period.

Not that he is or could be an Oregon target, but as an example of late development, the Lake Oswego QB is one who went from a Junior backup to 1st team all state over a Penn State bound 4 star.
If Herbert stays and we get DJU? kid next year no need. The only reason he was a junior backup was because LO had a top QB last yr. Had to wait his turn. He could have started most places. My grandson played for West Linn in same league. Seen him play. I think he compares to maybe Shough. If Herbert leaves we have Millen and Shough. Might want to add another. Not sure would be him. WL lost to the Penn State bound 4 star twice. He's really a tremendous running back who can somewhat throw the ball. Receivers, like Herbert, helped him out in the passing game.

Re: How do the ducks finish?

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:29 pm
by Duckenstein
StevensTechU wrote:I see guys' level of expectations rising based on the early signing period. Just keep them tempered, ya'll. The average signee in the early signing period was a low 4* rating (.9097 on 247Sports). Don't go thinking that the late period is just going to be nothing but 5 star players because "the staff can focus on a few guys." Every school in the country is in the same boat.
These next couple weeks, best case they get some depth guys

Not many top dudes on the board at this point

I expect a couple jucos

Re: How do the ducks finish?

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:40 pm
by Phenom
3/4* DT committed to Minnesota will visit in January according to JHop

https://247sports.com/Player/Kristian-W ... -46040808/

Re: How do the ducks finish?

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:42 pm
by GrandpaDuck
duck58 wrote:
GrandpaDuck wrote:
StevensTechU wrote:The late signing period is as much about finding those guys who came on strong as seniors and haven't been uncovered yet as it is about trying to land those big names, IMO.
Agreed. There are many players who come out of nowhere to become dominant high school players in their Senior years. The process of getting to know guys you hadn't paid attention to until a month or two ago fits into the late signing period.

Not that he is or could be an Oregon target, but as an example of late development, the Lake Oswego QB is one who went from a Junior backup to 1st team all state over a Penn State bound 4 star.
If Herbert stays and we get DJU? kid next year no need. The only reason he was a junior backup was because LO had a top QB last yr. Had to wait his turn. He could have started most places. My grandson played for West Linn in same league. Seen him play. I think he compares to maybe Shough. If Herbert leaves we have Millen and Shough. Might want to add another. Not sure would be him. WL lost to the Penn State bound 4 star twice. He's really a tremendous running back who can somewhat throw the ball. Receivers, like Herbert, helped him out in the passing game.
Yeah I just picked him as a low to non-rated player who made a high school impact in his senior year. I knew about him off the top of my head and the point was too insignificant to research better examples.

I really like Millen. He kept improving through his Senior year, unlike some recruits who plateau as Juniors.

Re: How do the ducks finish?

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:13 pm
by ncduck
Sometimes, the dreaded plateau as a senior really just means a kid doesn’t have great coaching/nutrition/fitness coaching. You really just hope it doesn’t mean the kid has a mindset issue or physical limitations.

Re: How do the ducks finish?

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:48 pm
by duck58
GrandpaDuck wrote:
duck58 wrote:
GrandpaDuck wrote:
StevensTechU wrote:The late signing period is as much about finding those guys who came on strong as seniors and haven't been uncovered yet as it is about trying to land those big names, IMO.
Agreed. There are many players who come out of nowhere to become dominant high school players in their Senior years. The process of getting to know guys you hadn't paid attention to until a month or two ago fits into the late signing period.

Not that he is or could be an Oregon target, but as an example of late development, the Lake Oswego QB is one who went from a Junior backup to 1st team all state over a Penn State bound 4 star.
If Herbert stays and we get DJU? kid next year no need. The only reason he was a junior backup was because LO had a top QB last yr. Had to wait his turn. He could have started most places. My grandson played for West Linn in same league. Seen him play. I think he compares to maybe Shough. If Herbert leaves we have Millen and Shough. Might want to add another. Not sure would be him. WL lost to the Penn State bound 4 star twice. He's really a tremendous running back who can somewhat throw the ball. Receivers, like Herbert, helped him out in the passing game.
Yeah I just picked him as a low to non-rated player who made a high school impact in his senior year. I knew about him off the top of my head and the point was too insignificant to research better examples.

I really like Millen. He kept improving through his Senior year, unlike some recruits who plateau as Juniors.
Millen is a 3* and I believe Shough was a 4*(might be mistaken) I'm with you. I like Millen off video.

Re: How do the ducks finish?

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:55 pm
by Phenom
Millen has a big upside and I think he's more ready for college than many people think.

Re: How do the ducks finish?

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:55 pm
by northbeachsf
Phenom wrote:Millen has a big upside and I think he's more ready for college than many people think.
I sure hope you are right. We are going to need him next year if Hurts gets injured
8-)

Re: How do the ducks finish?

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:09 pm
by lukeyrid13
If we get hurts, we desperately need to run read plays. We can’t just run HB dive every time. If we stick with the pistol, hurts would be a legit weapon in that system.

Re: How do the ducks finish?

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:28 am
by Everythingsducky
lukeyrid13 wrote:If we get hurts, we desperately need to run read plays. We can’t just run HB dive every time. If we stick with the pistol, hurts would be a legit weapon in that system.
Hopefully we won’t be finding out how to use Hurts. But hypothetically, with his experience, I wouldn’t dread the road games to Dallas, UW, Furd, or SC. Would even think the Ducks could be favored in a couple of them.

Re: How do the ducks finish?

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:39 am
by duckfan96
Yea but Herbert is gonna stay....hopefully

Re: How do the ducks finish?

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:20 am
by SuperDuck
Everythingsducky wrote:
lukeyrid13 wrote:If we get hurts, we desperately need to run read plays. We can’t just run HB dive every time. If we stick with the pistol, hurts would be a legit weapon in that system.
Hopefully we won’t be finding out how to use Hurts. But hypothetically, with his experience, I wouldn’t dread the road games to Dallas, UW, Furd, or SC. Would even think the Ducks could be favored in a couple of them.
There are a few quality QBs that could transfer in and do a good job as a stop gap while Burmeister, Shough and Millen develop for another year. Of course, I'd love to have Herbert back, but he needs to do what's best for himself and his family.

I look at how it hurt Matt Barkley to stay in school for his senior year. On the other hand, there are guys like Andrew Luck who were still drafted high.

I just hope that if Herbert does end up declaring for the draft that we can get one of these experienced QBs. That could have a major impact on the rest of our recruiting class.

Re: How do the ducks finish?

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:53 am
by StevensTechU
I really like Millen’s potential, but he reads plays really slowly. Unless he had Big Play VA ability to pull a rabbit from a hat, he needs a year or more to develop.