Alabama is No. 1 n AP poll, too

Post by **Bud Lee** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:05 am

And as well as they should be.

LSU got one vote and OSU got 4. Congrats to y'all ending 4th.

http://tribune-democrat.com/sports/x594 ... P-poll-too

RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Alabama (55) 12-1 1495
2 LSU (1) 13-1 1425
3 Oklahoma State (4) 12-1 1399
4 Oregon 12-2 1250
5 Arkansas 11-2 1198
6 USC 10-2 1181
7 Stanford 11-2 1167
8 Boise State 12-1 1127
9 South Carolina 11-2 1013
10 Wisconsin 11-3 905
11 Michigan State 11-3 873
12 Michigan 11-2 839
13 Baylor 10-3 780
14 TCU 11-2 653
15 Kansas State 10-3 621
16 Oklahoma 10-3 572
17 West Virginia 10-3 547
18 Houston 13-1 518
19 Georgia 10-4 439
20 Southern Miss 12-2 411
21 Virginia Tech 11-3 329
22 Clemson 10-4 188
23 Florida State 9-4 154
24 Nebraska 9-4 143
25 Cincinnati 10-3 103

alabamaduck · Post by **alabamaduck** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:32 am

3 SEC and 3 Pac-12 teams in the top 7...that'll work

lukeyrid13 · Post by **lukeyrid13** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:11 am

Wisconsin stayed in top 10 with a loss, kinda surprising but IMO deserved

uodux1212 · Post by **uodux1212** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:30 am

lukeyrid13 wrote:Wisconsin stayed in top 10 with a loss, kinda surprising but IMO deserved

Agreed, they were two hail mary passes from being undefeated in regular season, and if we're being honest the RB could have gone either way.

woundedknees · Post by **woundedknees** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:49 am

uodux1212 wrote:
lukeyrid13 wrote:Wisconsin stayed in top 10 with a loss, kinda surprising but IMO deserved
Agreed, they were two hail mary passes from being undefeated in regular season, and if we're being honest the RB could have gone either way.

Oregon was -3 turnovers from undefeated... Them are the breaks, sweetheart!

Post by **UOducksTK1** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:51 am

If LSU could have got 3-4 FGs in, I'm sure the margin would have been much closer.

Post by **Bud Lee** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:52 am

woundedknees wrote:
uodux1212 wrote:
lukeyrid13 wrote:Wisconsin stayed in top 10 with a loss, kinda surprising but IMO deserved
Agreed, they were two hail mary passes from being undefeated in regular season, and if we're being honest the RB could have gone either way.
Oregon was -3 turnovers from undefeated... Them are the breaks, sweetheart!

You mean -3 turnovers and a missed field goal...FWIW you can’t say take the turnovers out of that game and that would of created a win for y’all in the opener. Who is to say that the would be series following those fumbles would of ended in points.

woundedknees · Post by **woundedknees** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:54 am

UOducksTK1 wrote:If LSU could have got into FG range 3-4 times, I'm sure the margin might have been much closer.

Fixed.

BTW, Bud, I wasn't trying to take away from LSU... I was just pointing out the obvious discrepancy in the Wisky comment.

Great season by LSU. Inconsistency in performance killed the momentum for several teams at inauspicious times.

At least the Ducks aren't on the same page, bowl wise, as Cal and Washington.

uodux1212 · Post by **uodux1212** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:56 am

I dont consider UO's "bad breaks" in the same catagory as Wisky's... freakshow hail mary passes are a lot differnet than fumbling. Like Bud said, there's no guarantee we score on those possessions. We got beat fair and square IMO, Wisky on the other hand had legit bad breaks.... thats football.

Post by **Bud Lee** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:02 pm

woundedknees wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote:If LSU could have got into FG range 3-4 times, I'm sure the margin might have been much closer.
Fixed.

BTW, Bud, I wasn't trying to take away from LSU... I was just pointing out the obvious discrepancy in the Wisky comment.

Great season by LSU. Inconsistency in performance killed the momentum for several teams at inauspicious times.

At least the Ducks aren't on the same page, bowl wise, as Cal and Washington.

I didn’t take it like that….just pretty much saying what uodux just did. Whisky was literally a tip ball and half a inch from beating MSU

Duck07 · Post by **Duck07** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:28 pm

45 day layoff between games is a joke because I believe it creates "competitive atrophy." Nowhere else at any level of football do we see such a mockery made of the game all for the sake of making more money. Yes, the early bowls are typically crappy games because they are two crappy teams playing one another. Take the top 8, quarterfinals in mid-December, Semi's Jan 1, NC a week later. Teams get an extra week to prepare, heal, practice with only a week off for the NC game. You think that wouldn't drive some serious ratings for ESPN and that fans of all conferences wouldn't go bonkers for?

I'm just left with an overwhelming sense of not knowing who really IS the best team in the Nation because I think Ok St could have passed for enough scores against either LSU or Bama and Oregon might very well have done the same too. Not Stanford but USC certainly would have been interesting to see against Bama or LSU too. Ditto WVU and really, who doesn't think that Boise couldn't have dink and dunked it all night against either of those D's with that much prep time?

Post by **Bud Lee** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:25 pm

I'm just left with an overwhelming sense of not knowing who really IS the best team in the Nation because I think Ok St could have passed for enough scores against either LSU or Bama and Oregon might very well have done the same too. Not Stanford but USC certainly would have been interesting to see against Bama or LSU too. Ditto WVU and really, who doesn't think that Boise couldn't have dink and dunked it all night against either of those D's with that much prep time?

Oklahoma State got beat by Iowa State….nuff said.

We actually already played and beat WVU and I believe y’all. Of course as rematches go…last night shows that they don’t always play out the same. Though in actuality we had the same game –our three field goals last time and them making the ones that they missed the first time.

That leaves USC and Boise…Boise stumbled against TCU’s defense that is nowhere near Bama or LSU’s D so I doubt that they would “dink and dunked it” all night against us or Bama…as far as USC goes…well…if they beat y’all again next year (and trust me I don’t think they will) they will have a shot at proving themselves next year against our D minus big Mo.

People confuse the ability to put up large numbers against mediocre defenses in a back in fourth high scoring games as being a good team. The two best teams played last night.

Duck07 · Post by **Duck07** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:10 pm

Bud Lee wrote:People confuse the ability to put up low numbers against mediocre offenses in a back in fourth low-scoring games as being a good team.

How come it doesn't work both ways?

I'm not arguing against the superiority of the SEC under the current system. However, I truly do not believe that LSU or Alabama's respective defenses could not stop the Ok. St. passing offense (or others). Yes, I'm sure both teams would run against the Cowboys but nobody is arguing otherwise. My point is that ultimately the only legitimate way to crown a champion because frankly its how football is played. The 45 day delay is just weird and I can't think of any other sport in the world where the delay is so great from the regular season to the crowning of champion without the use of a playoff? Hell, is there any sport (non-ncaa) that crowns a champ without a playoff or with that same kind of delay?

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