Why does Lanning have an issue with Colorado?

[Phalanx]

I have been looking for quality commentary on this, and it is hard to wade through the Deion worship to find any. I could be way off, but it really seemed like Lanning took exception to something about Colorado, both a few months ago, and then of course with allowing the network cameras in for that pre-game speech and the halftime interview yesterday. There is also something in the way he coached - pulling out the fake punt and going for TD's on 4th down instead of field goals - it really seemed like he wanted to win by a lot. I'm curious what others saw. It seems like there are a few possibilities:

1. The theory on the Colorado end is that Coach Prime is winning recruiting battles vs. traditional western powers and Lanning and others are salty about it.

2. Perhaps Lanning and others blame Colorado for bailing on the Pac at just the time when it looked like they could resurrect the thing.

3. There were some rumblings about Colorado players on Oregon's end of the field trying to mix it up in the pre-game like we all saw them do vs. Colorado State. They were also apparently making posts from the O in the middle of the field. This may provide the context for Lanning's comments in the pre-game speech, which was obviously heavily edited to make Lanning seem more aggressive.

4. Maybe Lanning has been talking to other coaches about all the disrespect the Sanders clown show has been meting out every week, and he felt like he was bearing the standard for more than just Oregon.

5. Or maybe he was just using it all for motivation to look good in front of all the extra eyes. It clearly worked, if that is all it was.

Some of this is just getting to know our coach, and I am curious what his motivation is for being kinda confrontational.

[Tray Dub]

I think Lanning is kind of against glitz on principle. That's the way he comes across when I hear him speaking to the media. Some people have pointed out that it's a little ironic for a coach to be a lunchpail guy when 1) he's at Oregon, which I think we can all acknowledge has been one of the glitzier programs of the last 25 years, and 2) he's getting a bunch of media attention. Fair to make fun of but doesn't make him a hypocrite imo, I think his attitude is sincere and just doesn't mesh well with the Deion show.

It's also possible that the way Deion came in and cleaned house rubbed him the wrong way. Maybe not, maybe it's to be expected these days for college players to be pushed out the door. But Deion released a video of telling most of the team he inherited that they essentially weren't good enough to play for him. Seemed a little harsh to me even in this day and age.

[dthomas=ddixon]

Two things stand out to me:

1. Deion and Colorado are almost entirely are media fabrication at this point. They’ve accomplished nothing and are being treated like a CFB superpower. To someone like Lanning, who literally started at the very bottom, I’m sure he feels a sense of injustice about it all. That aside, this won’t just stay in the media sphere and will have real consequences. Oregon and other will absolutely lose recruiting battle to CU they otherwise wouldn’t simply because players and their circles will believe Colorado is something they aren’t.

As we’ve seen in our politics, if the media repeats something enough millions of people start to believe it. That’s what happening with CU. Utterly propped up by sycophantic media to the point that they’re creating something that wouldn’t otherwise be there.

2. Any great coach is a master motivator. Coaches say all sorts of outlandish and controversial things in their pregame speeches if they believe it’ll motivate their team. Usually though, there isn’t an ESPN camera crew in the locker room desperate for something controversial that they can incessantly broadcast and shine a light on. ESPN is dying and in their death rattle has turned into a practical sports tabloid.

[duckpoint]

I think #1 is the most direct reason of the options given.

What I think Dan gets and almost no one is talking about is in this age of transfer portals and NIL, it has opened the door for a head coach to be a celebrity that can attract these young players instead of a coach.

My only question is when & who will be the next to wade into these waters? Snoop Dog?

This model is good for a quick turn around & jumpstart to a failing program, but I don't think it will have any staying power of success. Coaching ability & X's & O's will always be vital to real top tier programs and players who sign on to be in the orbit of fame will leave as soon as the coach does.

Prime will likely move on to the next program that needs to upgrade from awful to mediocre until his kids are done with ball, then he will probably hang it up.

[Duck07]

I don't think Dan has an issue with CU/Deion personally, I think it was just a perfect storm of issues that all culminated into this game (that you both brought up) and Dan recognized the moment and used it for the program's benefit. Finebaum already threw out that Bama may come after him someday and while I'm not buying it, there is a ruthlessness that the best programs play with and Dan is trying to cultivate that within the program and people definitely took notice.

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[rockthief]

If Lanning had problem with Sanders he would have put 60 points on Colorado, but he backed way off.

[pezsez1]

I see no beef. I think Lanning simply played the game and put on a great show. Masterclass stuff.

[Phalanx]

Two things stand out to me:

1. Deion and Colorado are almost entirely are media fabrication at this point. They’ve accomplished nothing and are being treated like a CFB superpower. To someone like Lanning, who literally started at the very bottom, I’m sure he feels a sense of injustice about it all. That aside, this won’t just stay in the media sphere and will have real consequences. Oregon and other will absolutely lose recruiting battle to CU they otherwise wouldn’t simply because players and their circles will believe Colorado is something they aren’t.

As we’ve seen in our politics, if the media repeats something enough millions of people start to believe it. That’s what happening with CU. Utterly propped up by sycophantic media to the point that they’re creating something that wouldn’t otherwise be there.

Yeah, I meant to add more to option 4 above about bearing the standard for more than Oregon. You've done a good job explaining that possible reason. The question for college football followers is always if a coach can be mediocre and still win in college simply by out-recruiting other schools. We can call it the Mario Cristobal conundrum. For coaches used to building up from the foundation, it's probably an affront to see someone jump into the profession and watching the media go out of their way to help his cause. Or maybe it's helpful to remember that Lanning is a linebacker and Sanders is a flashy skill player. They clearly have different approaches, and like Lanning said, he prefers to let his team's play do the talking.

[Phalanx]

I see no beef. I think Lanning simply played the game and put on a great show. Masterclass stuff.

There is always that possibility (option 5 above). I've tried to outline the evidence that Lanning viewed this game differently than a normal week, but we don't normally get to hear the pre-game speech, so who knows. Anyway, if I saw a random coach fake punting, going for it on 4th down instead of kicking the field goal multiple times, including up 42-0, going for 2 multiple times, and all of a sudden allowing cameras in to see what he had to say about the other team...I don't know, I might think something was up.

[pezsez1]

I've tried to outline the evidence that Lanning viewed this game differently than a normal week

I think he saw the opportunity to weaponize the Colorado hype train and use it to Oregon's advantage. Not something that can usually happen without something like Gameday on campus.

[nogerO]

Pretty sure Prime will bolt for the first good coaching job in Florida or the SEC so there's that. I totally agree with the Danimal the way he coached yesterday. You could tell our team came out playing like their hair was on fire but pretty much in control. We don't know what Lanning saw or heard or read on his phone? before the game that pissed him off but you could tell he was as focused as a Shark hunting seals. The killer instinct was brought up and that has been sorely lacking since big balls left.

Khyree (sp) put on an absolute show at lock down corner yesterday and so did Evan Williams. A few pre/post snap penalties still cropping up but a lot of that can be put on the completely inept officials. I counted at least 1 hold on almost every colorado drop back, disgusting.

Whoever said the Duck D wasn't playing very well needs to go back and watch the game again. Sorry dude, but you're way off. The D was outstanding in coverage, tackling and putting pressure on their coaches kid.

[lmduck]

I see no beef. I think Lanning simply played the game and put on a great show. Masterclass stuff.

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[lmduck]

Pretty sure Prime will bolt for the first good coaching job in Florida or the SEC so there's that. I totally agree with the Danimal the way he coached yesterday. You could tell our team came out playing like their hair was on fire but pretty much in control. We don't know what Lanning saw or heard or read on his phone? before the game that pissed him off but you could tell he was as focused as a Shark hunting seals. The killer instinct was brought up and that has been sorely lacking since big balls left.

Khyree (sp) put on an absolute show at lock down corner yesterday and so did Evan Williams. A few pre/post snap penalties still cropping up but a lot of that can be put on the completely inept officials. I counted at least 1 hold on almost every colorado drop back, disgusting.

Whoever said the Duck D wasn't playing very well needs to go back and watch the game again. Sorry dude, but you're way off. The D was outstanding in coverage, tackling and putting pressure on their coaches kid.

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[73duck]

I think he overdid it. He probably won't coach another game against Sanders, so what's the point? Re recruiting, this kind of playacting can be counter-productive. I hope Colorado beats USC and wins enough games to make this a quality win at the end of the year. Sanders can then go on to have success in the Big 12.

[pezsez1]

I don't think going for it on that fourth-and-goal was actually overly aggressive. Would have been different if it had been a shootout and we needed the points. But our D was playing lights out and not giving up an inch. So we either come away with 7 or force Colorado's offense to start at their own 5. I mean in the flow of that game, either outcome is a win for us and a gut punch for the Buffalos. I guarantee that most of Colorado's offense was NOT happy about running onto the field down by 40 and so close to their own goal line.