In preparation for Masoli's potential departure...

glazeduck · Post by **glazeduck** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:54 pm

Starting to sound like We'll lose Masoli for the year, depending on who you believe.

Thought I'd throw this out there, just as something to discuss...

Masoli himself was brought in VERY late in the recruiting process as insurance for our then injury ridden stable of qbs. While (thankfully not due to injuries) our qb depth is potentially shaky again -- don't exactly like the prospects of Nate Costa getting time...

Are there any unsigned JC qbs that might fit in this system (preferably ones w/out priors) worth looking at?

woundedknees · Post by **woundedknees** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:59 pm

Masoli was a fluke, in that he decided to come out at the end of his freshman season at JC.

There do not appear to be any obvious JC QBs left to choose from.

glazeduck · Post by **glazeduck** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:29 pm

More WildDuck maybe?

I'd hate to have to rely on either Costa or Dawkins this early...

Here's to hopin DT stays clean and healthy

KeenanHowry15 · Post by **KeenanHowry15** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:38 pm

As much as i want to see DT run the offense, i bet Costa will get the start. I don't think DT is ready...

nehalem · Post by **nehalem** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:39 pm

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:29 pm

Re: In preparation for Masoli's potential departure...
More WildDuck maybe?

I'd hate to have to rely on either Costa or Dawkins this early...

Here's to hopin DT stays clean and healthy

Why don't you like Costa as our starting QB?

duckgrad99 · Post by **duckgrad99** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:50 pm

Unless something has drastically changed, Costa isn't a very mobile qb. Just think of how many games Oregon won because Masoli could run.

Post by **greenyellow** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:06 pm

duckgrad99 wrote:Unless something has drastically changed, Costa isn't a very mobile qb. Just think of how many games Oregon won because Masoli could run.

But think of how the offense would change if we had a passing attack.

Post by **dthomas=ddixon** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:08 pm

Costa is "solid" but he's not going to be dynamic. He's got a good arm, throws a nice spiral but isn't going to be chucking 60 yard bombs down field to Diante Jackson & Maehl. As far as running goes, Costa will get you a few first down scrambles but he isn't going to be taking off, juking people out & running 30 yard TDs.

DT on the other hand has all the ability in the world. BUT he's going to struggle & take his licks starting off. Probably make bad reads, throw some picks & struggle with the mesh read. Costa can be that solid guy that doesn't lose games but he isn't gonna win em for you either. I think we should throw DT to the wolves, let him go through his growing pains OOC & hope hes ready by conference play. It will be the best thing long team but probably not a first.

Post by **greenyellow** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:10 pm

dthomas=ddixon wrote:Costa is "solid" but he's not going to be dynamic. He's got a good arm, throws a nice spiral but isn't going to be chucking 60 yard bombs down field to Diante Jackson & Maehl. As far as running goes, Costa will get you a few first down scrambles but he isn't going to be taking off, juking people out & running 30 yard TDs.

DT on the other hand has all the ability in the world. BUT he's going to struggle & take his licks starting off. Probably make bad reads, throw some picks & struggle with the mesh read. Costa can be that solid guy that doesn't lose games but he isn't gonna win em for you either. I think we should throw DT to the wolves, let him go through his growing pains OOC & hope hes ready by conference play. It will be the best thing long team but probably not a first.

I say they play him a lot during OOC but have Costa start to begin the season. If DT plays well, then possibly move him over, unless Costa doesn't do anything to lose the job.

glazeduck · Post by **glazeduck** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:26 pm

nehalem wrote:
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:29 pm

Re: In preparation for Masoli's potential departure...
More WildDuck maybe?

I'd hate to have to rely on either Costa or Dawkins this early...

Here's to hopin DT stays clean and healthy
Why don't you like Costa as our starting QB?

Have you seen him throw the football? It looks more like a shotput than a pass from a quarterback...

To me, playing Costa is playing not to lose. Playing Thomas is playing to win.

We should have a damn good defense, a damn good running game, and a solid at worst special teams unit.

To each their own I suppose, Costa might be able to "man the ship", but I think this offense can be special with Thomas, and this will be his 3rd offseason under Kelly, so it's not like he's new to the program. Remember alot of people had him more highly ranked than Jacorry Harris who clearly showed that he was able to play in D-1 college football, I think it's in the program's best long term interest to get Thomas in as soon as possible...

duckgrad99 · Post by **duckgrad99** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:29 pm

glazeduck wrote:
nehalem wrote:
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:29 pm

Re: In preparation for Masoli's potential departure...
More WildDuck maybe?

I'd hate to have to rely on either Costa or Dawkins this early...

Here's to hopin DT stays clean and healthy
Why don't you like Costa as our starting QB?
Have you seen him throw the football? It looks more like a shotput than a pass from a quarterback...

To me, playing Costa is playing not to lose. Playing Thomas is playing to win.

We should have a damn good defense, a damn good running game, and a solid at worst special teams unit.

To each their own I suppose, Costa might be able to "man the ship", but I think this offense can be special with Thomas, and this will be his 3rd offseason under Kelly, so it's not like he's new to the program. Remember alot of people had him more highly ranked than Jacorry Harris who clearly showed that he was able to play in D-1 college football, I think it's in the program's best long term interest to get Thomas in as soon as possible...

Well said, I completely agree.

Hoagduck · Post by **Hoagduck** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:32 pm

Costa, Thomas > Riley, Mansion
Costa, Thomas > Katz Lalich
Costa, Thomas > Foles, Scott

Tate Forcier had about as much accolade going to Michigan as Bryan Bennett. Imagine if we had to turn to him already.

Boom · Post by **Boom** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:47 pm

glazeduck wrote:
nehalem wrote:
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:29 pm

Re: In preparation for Masoli's potential departure...
More WildDuck maybe?

I'd hate to have to rely on either Costa or Dawkins this early...

Here's to hopin DT stays clean and healthy
Why don't you like Costa as our starting QB?
Have you seen him throw the football? It looks more like a shotput than a pass from a quarterback...

To me, playing Costa is playing not to lose. Playing Thomas is playing to win.

We should have a damn good defense, a damn good running game, and a solid at worst special teams unit.

To each their own I suppose, Costa might be able to "man the ship", but I think this offense can be special with Thomas, and this will be his 3rd offseason under Kelly, so it's not like he's new to the program. Remember alot of people had him more highly ranked than Jacorry Harris who clearly showed that he was able to play in D-1 college football, I think it's in the program's best long term interest to get Thomas in as soon as possible...

Jacory Harris and Tate Forcier both cost their team games last year.... Inexperience does that

The coaches will play whoever gives them the best shot to win today, not the future.

Spring ball should be interesting this year. Hopefully we will have a starter set by the spring game.

duckgrad99 · Post by **duckgrad99** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:01 pm

Boom wrote:
glazeduck wrote:
nehalem wrote:
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:29 pm

Re: In preparation for Masoli's potential departure...
More WildDuck maybe?

I'd hate to have to rely on either Costa or Dawkins this early...

Here's to hopin DT stays clean and healthy
Why don't you like Costa as our starting QB?
Have you seen him throw the football? It looks more like a shotput than a pass from a quarterback...

To me, playing Costa is playing not to lose. Playing Thomas is playing to win.

We should have a damn good defense, a damn good running game, and a solid at worst special teams unit.

To each their own I suppose, Costa might be able to "man the ship", but I think this offense can be special with Thomas, and this will be his 3rd offseason under Kelly, so it's not like he's new to the program. Remember alot of people had him more highly ranked than Jacorry Harris who clearly showed that he was able to play in D-1 college football, I think it's in the program's best long term interest to get Thomas in as soon as possible...
Jacory Harris and Tate Forcier both cost their team games last year.... Inexperience does that

The coaches will play whoever gives them the best shot to win today, not the future.

Spring ball should be interesting this year. Hopefully we will have a starter set by the spring game.

So if Thomas doesn't start this year, he would start the next season anyway. Either way, he will be inexperienced.

PDXShogun · Post by **PDXShogun** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:14 pm

duckgrad99 wrote:Unless something has drastically changed, Costa isn't a very mobile qb. Just think of how many games Oregon won because Masoli could run.

He'll probably never be Masoli or Dixon, but now being two years removed from his last surgery he should have more of his explosiveness back next season than he did this past season.