Who DOESN'T Redshirt

Bigducker · Post by **Bigducker** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:05 pm

I didn't include the obvious kids who the coaches will undoubtedtly try to redshirt like the O-lineman, Mariota, and most of the linebackers. I think the coaches always want to get a year of devolopment ( learning the system, along with gaining weight and strength) for the new kids but sometimes the posistion need is too great to redshirt a very talented kid.

I'm sure a lot of you are thinking DAT will play this year but I just think the Ducks are way too deep at his positions RB, DB to waste a year for a few plays. He could play the slot but I really think CK wants to get him a little seasoning and get a little more weight on him. If we weren't so deep at his positions, he definitely plays. Remember as talented as Cliff is they were trying to redshirt him until Thurmond and Glaspar went down.
I also don't think Blackmon plays either because he was a Qb a lot in HS and probably doesn't have the route running and blocking skills that you have to have down as an Oregon receiver to play right away
I think the kids that get some playing this year are Lyerla, Ebert,Wallace,Vaughn, and maybe Kelly.

AugustDuck · Post by **AugustDuck** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:01 pm

I think the following recruits will play next season:

Ebert
Vaughn
Colt
Blackmon
D.A.T.
Wallace

depending on needs/injuries, possibly Lake

duckfan96 · Post by **duckfan96** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:09 pm

ebert, vaughn, colt, dat, and blackmon

uodux1212 · Post by **uodux1212** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:28 pm

duckfan96 wrote:ebert, vaughn, colt, dat, and blackmon

Same here sans ebert.

Post by **greenyellow** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:48 pm

DaT
Lyerla
Wallace
Blackmon
Ebert
Vaughn
Kelley

Phalanx · Post by **Phalanx** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:42 pm

Chip has said that he will not play someone just for garbage minutes - he would rather redshirt them. According to this philosophy, I don't believe that DAT plays at RB this season, unless there are injuries or transfers ahead of him.

Ebert, Vaughn, and probably Blackmon and Wallace will play. I would guess Colt too, but it may depend on if he gets in for spring ball.

JTinKC · Post by **JTinKC** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:49 pm

Unless DAT switches to CB and shows he deserves playing time I can't see him stepping in next year with all the talent ahead of him. He may have been a huge get but so was seastrunk.

Bigducker · Post by **Bigducker** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:13 pm

[quote="JTinKC"]Unless DAT switches to CB and shows he deserves playing time I can't see him stepping in next year with all the talent ahead of him. He may have been a huge get but so was seastrunk.[/quote]

Exactly... And we are also loaded at DB

duckfan96 · Post by **duckfan96** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:18 pm

Wallace is a lb correct? I thought Oregon was loaded at LB as well.

Bigducker · Post by **Bigducker** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:25 pm

duckfan96 wrote:Wallace is a lb correct? I thought Oregon was loaded at LB as well.

We do have a lot of LB's but we just lost 2 out the three best starters in Mathews and Pasinger. I think one key to whether Wallace plays will be how well Kiko Alonso plays.

soduck · Post by **soduck** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:29 pm

If Dat is amazing with the ball, ie maybe as good, or better than LMJ. He might not red shirt. He is already as fast, or faster than LMJ. But if he really is third string at rb or wr or corner back, he won't waste his red shirt for garbage time. What a nice problem to have. I have a hard time not seeing him getting to be second team at some position, even if he is returning punts, or kick offs. But does he waste his red shirt, for second team return, I don't know. Barner, Cliff, Lache, Huff, LMJ. Sumner.....Amazing. But if DAT is truly the best player out of LA in 10 years. He is Reggie Bush good, not as big as he was at this point. He is going to go Pro after three years. So if he red-shirts we may just lose a year anyway. Size does matter so sure putting a few pounds on him would help if we realyy would keep him for three years or four and a red shirt. Not likely.

Boom · Post by **Boom** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:39 pm

Bigducker wrote:
duckfan96 wrote:Wallace is a lb correct? I thought Oregon was loaded at LB as well.
We do have a lot of LB's but we just lost 2 out the three best starters in Mathews and Pasinger. I think one key to whether Wallace plays will be how well Kiko Alonso plays.

We also lost Bryson Littlejon who I believe was also an inside guy.

Kiko didn't play last year due to his suspension and he was rehabbing a knee injury (ACL?) So he's a pretty big unknown.

Boom · Post by **Boom** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:44 pm

soduck wrote:If Dat is amazing with the ball, ie maybe as good, or better than LMJ. He might not red shirt. He is already as fast, or faster than LMJ. But if he really is third string at rb or wr or corner back, he won't waste his red shirt for garbage time. What a nice problem to have. I have a hard time not seeing him getting to be second team at some position, even if he is returning punts, or kick offs. But does he waste his red shirt, for second team return, I don't know. Barner, Cliff, Lache, Huff, LMJ. Sumner.....Amazing. But if DAT is truly the best player out of LA in 10 years. He is Reggie Bush good, not as big as he was at this point. He is going to go Pro after three years. So if he red-shirts we may just lose a year anyway. Size does matter so sure putting a few pounds on him would help if we realyy would keep him for three years or four and a red shirt. Not likely.

I think his size is a pretty big indicator though.

If he's only 160-170 at fall camp then no way in hell he plays RB this year.... I just don't see how it would be possible. LMJ is already borderline and he's 185.

btw, I doubt DAT is Reggie Bush good..... USC and every other program in the country would have recruited him as a RB and not a DB.

Bigducker · Post by **Bigducker** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:45 pm

soduck wrote:If Dat is amazing with the ball, ie maybe as good, or better than LMJ. He might not red shirt. He is already as fast, or faster than LMJ. But if he really is third string at rb or wr or corner back, he won't waste his red shirt for garbage time. What a nice problem to have. I have a hard time not seeing him getting to be second team at some position, even if he is returning punts, or kick offs. But does he waste his red shirt, for second team return, I don't know. Barner, Cliff, Lache, Huff, LMJ. Sumner.....Amazing. But if DAT is truly the best player out of LA in 10 years. He is Reggie Bush good, not as big as he was at this point. He is going to go Pro after three years. So if he red-shirts we may just lose a year anyway. Size does matter so sure putting a few pounds on him would help if we realyy would keep him for three years or four and a red shirt. Not likely.

Don't forget Reggie Bush didn't play a whole lot his freshman year and he was bigger than DAT is.

Another very fast kid that hasn't got a lot of pub is Scott Grady where i read where he recorded the fastest 40 time of all the DB's including Pleasant and Dior mathis last fall. We are loaded with speed.

buckmarkduck · Post by **buckmarkduck** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:33 pm

Reggie had a decent FR year, though he didn't really break out until the UW game that year when he had 81 yds rushing and 130 yds receiving. he wasn't LMJ, but no RB before James had his kind of FR year, and James of course was a RS. Personally I don't think Thomas will RS, he's to versatile and will find a way on the field somehow. Lache would have played this year as at least a return man if he didn't fumble punts so much in practice the first month he was here. CK want's to get all the speed he can on the field as long as he can trust them to not turn over the ball.