Comparing scout and rivals using the 2010 NFL draft
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karlhungis
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Comparing scout and rivals using the 2010 NFL draft
It seems like every year we tend to fall into the same debate if which recruiting service is more accurate. It seems that most people believe that Rivals is a more accurate service when it comes to ranking prospects. I figured that I would look at the first round of last years NFL draft and see how each service ranked each of the prospects. What I have found seems to suggest that Rivals seems to be the more accurate of the two services (based upon this small sample).
Obviously, this is an inexact science and I am sure that people can look at this same info and come to their own conclusion but this is what I found. Of the 32 people taken in the first round, 20 of the 32 were higher rated on Rivals. Scout only had 3 of the draftee's rated higher than Rivals did and the other 9 were pretty much a draw (2* prospects that weren't evaluated by either service or consensus #1's).
Anyways, I found it interesting. Hopefully someone else enjoys it.
2010 NFL DRAFT:
1 (1)Bradford, Sam QB 6'4"236 Oklahoma
Rivals 3*** #14QB
Scout 4**** #17QB
2 (2)Suh, Ndamukong DT 6'4"307 Nebraska
Rivals 4**** #6DT
Scout 4**** #9DT
3 (3)McCoy, Gerald DT 6'4"295 Oklahoma
Rivals 5*****
Scout 5***** #1 DT
4 (4)Williams, Trent OT 6'5"315 Oklahoma
Rivals 3*** #28 OT
Scout 3*** #56 OL
5 (5)Berry, Eric SS 6'0"211Tennessee
Rivals 5***** #1CB
Scout 5***** #1CB
6 (6)Okung, Russell OT 6'5"307 Oklahoma State
Rivals 3*** #33 OL
Scout 4**** #45 OL
7 (7)Haden, Joe CB 5'11"193 Florida
Rivals 4**** #3 ATH
Scout 4**** #22 WR
8 (8)McClain, Rolando LB 6'3"254 Alabama
Rivals 4**** #2 ILB
Scout 5***** #1 MLB
9 (9)Spiller, C.J. RB 5'11"196 Clemson
Rivals 5***** #1 RB
Scout 5***** #4 RB
10 (10)Alualu, Tyson DE 6'3"295 California
Rivals 3*** #24DT
Scout 3*** #55DT
11 (11)Davis, Anthony OT 6'5"323 Rutgers
Rivals 4**** #5 OL
Scout 4**** #2 OT
12 (12)Mathews, Ryan RB 6'0"218 Fresno State
Rivals 3*** #69RB
Scout 2**
13 (13)Graham, Brandon DE 6'1"268 Michigan
Rivals 5***** #2DE
Scout 5***** #3LB
14 (14)Thomas, Earl S 5'10"208 Texas
Rivals 4**** #12ATH
Scout 4**** #11CB
15 (15)Pierre-Paul, Jason DE 6'5"270 South Florida
Rivals 4**** (NA)
Scout NR
16 (16)Morgan, Derrick DE 6'3"266 Georgia Tech
Rivals 4**** #6DE
Scout 4**** #15DE
17 (17))Iupati, Mike OG 6'5"331 Idaho
Rivals 2**
Scout 2**
18 (18)Pouncey, Maurkice C 6'4"304 Florida
Rivals 4**** #15OL
Scout 4**** #15OG
19 (19)Weatherspoon, Sean LB 6'1"239 Missouri
Rivals 2**
Scout 2**
20 (20)Jackson, Kareem CB 5'10"196 Alabama
Rivals 4****
Scout 3***
21 (21)Gresham, Jermaine TE 6'5"261 Oklahoma
Rivals 4**** #1TE
Scout 4**** #4TE
22 (22)Thomas, Demaryius WR 6'3"224 Georgia Tech
Rivals 3*** #58WR
Scout 3*** #34WR
23 (23)Bulaga, Bryan OT 6'5"314 Iowa
Rivals 4**** #6OL
Scout 4**** #16OL
24 (24)Bryant, Dez WR 6'2"225 Oklahoma State
Rivals 4**** #9WR
Scout 4**** #13WR
25 (25)Tebow, Tim QB 6'3"236 Florida
Rivals 5***** #1QB
Scout 5***** #3QB
26 (26)Williams, Dan DT 6'2"327 Tennessee
Rivals 3*** #35DT
Scout 3*** #57OL
27 (27)McCourty, Devin CB 5'11"193 Rutgers
Rivals 2**
Scout 2**
28 (28)Odrick, Jared DT 6'5"304 Penn State
Rivals 4**** #3DT
Scout 4**** #8DT
29 (29)Wilson, Kyle CB 5'10"194 Boise State
Rivals 2**
Scout 2**
30 (30)Best, Jahvid RB 5'10"199 California
Rivals 4**** #9RB
Scout 4**** #18RB
31 (31)Hughes, Jerry DE 6'2"255 TCU
Rivals 2**
Scout 2**
32 (32)Robinson, Patrick CB 5'11"190 Florida State
Rivals 4**** #6DB
Scout 4**** #16CB
Obviously, this is an inexact science and I am sure that people can look at this same info and come to their own conclusion but this is what I found. Of the 32 people taken in the first round, 20 of the 32 were higher rated on Rivals. Scout only had 3 of the draftee's rated higher than Rivals did and the other 9 were pretty much a draw (2* prospects that weren't evaluated by either service or consensus #1's).
Anyways, I found it interesting. Hopefully someone else enjoys it.
2010 NFL DRAFT:
1 (1)Bradford, Sam QB 6'4"236 Oklahoma
Rivals 3*** #14QB
Scout 4**** #17QB
2 (2)Suh, Ndamukong DT 6'4"307 Nebraska
Rivals 4**** #6DT
Scout 4**** #9DT
3 (3)McCoy, Gerald DT 6'4"295 Oklahoma
Rivals 5*****
Scout 5***** #1 DT
4 (4)Williams, Trent OT 6'5"315 Oklahoma
Rivals 3*** #28 OT
Scout 3*** #56 OL
5 (5)Berry, Eric SS 6'0"211Tennessee
Rivals 5***** #1CB
Scout 5***** #1CB
6 (6)Okung, Russell OT 6'5"307 Oklahoma State
Rivals 3*** #33 OL
Scout 4**** #45 OL
7 (7)Haden, Joe CB 5'11"193 Florida
Rivals 4**** #3 ATH
Scout 4**** #22 WR
8 (8)McClain, Rolando LB 6'3"254 Alabama
Rivals 4**** #2 ILB
Scout 5***** #1 MLB
9 (9)Spiller, C.J. RB 5'11"196 Clemson
Rivals 5***** #1 RB
Scout 5***** #4 RB
10 (10)Alualu, Tyson DE 6'3"295 California
Rivals 3*** #24DT
Scout 3*** #55DT
11 (11)Davis, Anthony OT 6'5"323 Rutgers
Rivals 4**** #5 OL
Scout 4**** #2 OT
12 (12)Mathews, Ryan RB 6'0"218 Fresno State
Rivals 3*** #69RB
Scout 2**
13 (13)Graham, Brandon DE 6'1"268 Michigan
Rivals 5***** #2DE
Scout 5***** #3LB
14 (14)Thomas, Earl S 5'10"208 Texas
Rivals 4**** #12ATH
Scout 4**** #11CB
15 (15)Pierre-Paul, Jason DE 6'5"270 South Florida
Rivals 4**** (NA)
Scout NR
16 (16)Morgan, Derrick DE 6'3"266 Georgia Tech
Rivals 4**** #6DE
Scout 4**** #15DE
17 (17))Iupati, Mike OG 6'5"331 Idaho
Rivals 2**
Scout 2**
18 (18)Pouncey, Maurkice C 6'4"304 Florida
Rivals 4**** #15OL
Scout 4**** #15OG
19 (19)Weatherspoon, Sean LB 6'1"239 Missouri
Rivals 2**
Scout 2**
20 (20)Jackson, Kareem CB 5'10"196 Alabama
Rivals 4****
Scout 3***
21 (21)Gresham, Jermaine TE 6'5"261 Oklahoma
Rivals 4**** #1TE
Scout 4**** #4TE
22 (22)Thomas, Demaryius WR 6'3"224 Georgia Tech
Rivals 3*** #58WR
Scout 3*** #34WR
23 (23)Bulaga, Bryan OT 6'5"314 Iowa
Rivals 4**** #6OL
Scout 4**** #16OL
24 (24)Bryant, Dez WR 6'2"225 Oklahoma State
Rivals 4**** #9WR
Scout 4**** #13WR
25 (25)Tebow, Tim QB 6'3"236 Florida
Rivals 5***** #1QB
Scout 5***** #3QB
26 (26)Williams, Dan DT 6'2"327 Tennessee
Rivals 3*** #35DT
Scout 3*** #57OL
27 (27)McCourty, Devin CB 5'11"193 Rutgers
Rivals 2**
Scout 2**
28 (28)Odrick, Jared DT 6'5"304 Penn State
Rivals 4**** #3DT
Scout 4**** #8DT
29 (29)Wilson, Kyle CB 5'10"194 Boise State
Rivals 2**
Scout 2**
30 (30)Best, Jahvid RB 5'10"199 California
Rivals 4**** #9RB
Scout 4**** #18RB
31 (31)Hughes, Jerry DE 6'2"255 TCU
Rivals 2**
Scout 2**
32 (32)Robinson, Patrick CB 5'11"190 Florida State
Rivals 4**** #6DB
Scout 4**** #16CB
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Bigducker
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Re: Comparing scout and rivals using the 2010 NFL draft
I suspected rivals was better at the evaluations. Would love to go back 3-4 more years to check their records, but I know that takes a lot of time and work. Good job !
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hines
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Re: Comparing scout and rivals using the 2010 NFL draft
people comparing recruiting lists crack me up. never has time ever been so wasted.
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Re: Comparing scout and rivals using the 2010 NFL draft
Said the guy who just read the "waste of time".hines wrote:people comparing recruiting lists crack me up. never has time ever been so wasted.
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Destroyer77
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Re: Comparing scout and rivals using the 2010 NFL draft
Oh it's been wasted worse than that I assure you.....hines wrote:people comparing recruiting lists crack me up. never has time ever been so wasted.
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Re: Comparing scout and rivals using the 2010 NFL draft
Nice work karl. I've always wanted to see a comparison of the two sites. Obviously, a more comprehensive look would be better since this has a pretty small sample size, but this is still a good job. Thanks.
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Re: Comparing scout and rivals using the 2010 NFL draft
Haha...Destroyer77 wrote:Oh it's been wasted worse than that I assure you.....hines wrote:people comparing recruiting lists crack me up. never has time ever been so wasted.
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to eDuck. You fit right in there Mr. Pompous.hines wrote:people comparing recruiting lists crack me up. never has time ever been so wasted.
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uodux1212
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Re: Comparing scout and rivals using the 2010 NFL draft
Here's a great article comparing recruiting classes and winning percentages... interesting stuff...
http://oregon.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1179868
Over the last 9 years only 5 teams have a double digit delta between the class rank and winning %.
VT +15 (ave class rank 28, average rank win % 6)
Mizz +13 (27/14)
tOSU +11 (12/1)
UO +10 (20/10)
Pitt +10 (29/19)
UCLA -9 (17/25)
AZ -1 (28/29)
USC -1 (4/5) (Im sure they're not too broken up about this)
ASU +1 (24/23)
http://oregon.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1179868
Over the last 9 years only 5 teams have a double digit delta between the class rank and winning %.
VT +15 (ave class rank 28, average rank win % 6)
Mizz +13 (27/14)
tOSU +11 (12/1)
UO +10 (20/10)
Pitt +10 (29/19)
UCLA -9 (17/25)
AZ -1 (28/29)
USC -1 (4/5) (Im sure they're not too broken up about this)
ASU +1 (24/23)

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