So, about the 2012 Class

[Zyme]

TB drafts him to pair up Blount and LMJ

[stlDUCKfan]

TB drafts him to pair up Blount and LMJ

Being from STL and a Rams fan I would love to see LMJ in the backfield with S. Jackson to get some lighting to go with the thunder. I don't think Jackson is an every down back. Crazy to see a Beaver and a Duck in the same backfield.

[Juice]

LaMichael is a given. We're lucky he even came back this year.

Cliff is a real possibility. Needs to get bigger and be more consistent but he's in line for a great year.

Boyett is doubtful. Nice college player but 5'10 safeties without elite speed are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

Thomas also doubtful. Spread option quarterbacks are always a huge ? in the draft and he doesn't seem to have the elite tools that pro scouts look for.


Of course you can never tell who gets in a guys ear and tells him he's the greatest thing or if they are in a situation where they need to start to provide for their family, but I'd be shocked if Boyett and Thomas weren't around for their senior years.

LMJ isn't a given. He really doesn't have the size to project to be anything more than a rotational back. He'll be the most talented rotational guy in the NFL, but he won't be purely a franchise player. He'll be favored to come out, but don't discount what the NFL naysayers will be telling him.

DT will come back, I think. Unless something crazy happens, he's more of a college player than an NFL prospect.

Boyett could go. He's super talented, plus he has the Oregon DB pedigree to boost his status.

Paulson is a guy who could leave. He's super talented, will be eligible to go pro next year, and could be a 2nd or 3rd round prospect, which is really good for a TE.

Barner is another guy who could go, especially if LMJ wants to stay.

Jackson Rice could go. He's talented enough (and has an ego big enough FWIW) for him to want to go pro.

If Dion Jordan has a breakout (by breakout I mean Fairley-esque dominant) year, then he could go pro as well.

Not all of these guys will go. Most will stay, but there are some definite leave early candidates in this year's underclassmen crop.

Paulson will be a senior.

and I don't think I've ever heard of a punter entering the draft early, lol.

[Zyme]

LaMichael is a given. We're lucky he even came back this year.

Cliff is a real possibility. Needs to get bigger and be more consistent but he's in line for a great year.

Boyett is doubtful. Nice college player but 5'10 safeties without elite speed are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

Thomas also doubtful. Spread option quarterbacks are always a huge ? in the draft and he doesn't seem to have the elite tools that pro scouts look for.


Of course you can never tell who gets in a guys ear and tells him he's the greatest thing or if they are in a situation where they need to start to provide for their family, but I'd be shocked if Boyett and Thomas weren't around for their senior years.

LMJ isn't a given. He really doesn't have the size to project to be anything more than a rotational back. He'll be the most talented rotational guy in the NFL, but he won't be purely a franchise player. He'll be favored to come out, but don't discount what the NFL naysayers will be telling him.

DT will come back, I think. Unless something crazy happens, he's more of a college player than an NFL prospect.

Boyett could go. He's super talented, plus he has the Oregon DB pedigree to boost his status.

Paulson is a guy who could leave. He's super talented, will be eligible to go pro next year, and could be a 2nd or 3rd round prospect, which is really good for a TE.

Barner is another guy who could go, especially if LMJ wants to stay.

Jackson Rice could go. He's talented enough (and has an ego big enough FWIW) for him to want to go pro.

If Dion Jordan has a breakout (by breakout I mean Fairley-esque dominant) year, then he could go pro as well.

Not all of these guys will go. Most will stay, but there are some definite leave early candidates in this year's underclassmen crop.

Paulson will be a senior.

and I don't think I've ever heard of a punter entering the draft early, lol.

My gut reaction:
LMJ gone
Barner Stay
Thomas Stay
Rice Stay
Jordan Stay
Cliff gone
Boyett Stay

[AugustDuck]

LaMichael is a given. We're lucky he even came back this year.

Cliff is a real possibility. Needs to get bigger and be more consistent but he's in line for a great year.

Boyett is doubtful. Nice college player but 5'10 safeties without elite speed are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

Thomas also doubtful. Spread option quarterbacks are always a huge ? in the draft and he doesn't seem to have the elite tools that pro scouts look for.


Of course you can never tell who gets in a guys ear and tells him he's the greatest thing or if they are in a situation where they need to start to provide for their family, but I'd be shocked if Boyett and Thomas weren't around for their senior years.

LMJ isn't a given. He really doesn't have the size to project to be anything more than a rotational back. He'll be the most talented rotational guy in the NFL, but he won't be purely a franchise player. He'll be favored to come out, but don't discount what the NFL naysayers will be telling him.

DT will come back, I think. Unless something crazy happens, he's more of a college player than an NFL prospect.

Boyett could go. He's super talented, plus he has the Oregon DB pedigree to boost his status.

Paulson is a guy who could leave. He's super talented, will be eligible to go pro next year, and could be a 2nd or 3rd round prospect, which is really good for a TE.

Barner is another guy who could go, especially if LMJ wants to stay.

Jackson Rice could go. He's talented enough (and has an ego big enough FWIW) for him to want to go pro.

If Dion Jordan has a breakout (by breakout I mean Fairley-esque dominant) year, then he could go pro as well.

Not all of these guys will go. Most will stay, but there are some definite leave early candidates in this year's underclassmen crop.

Paulson will be a senior next year.

[vagusnerve]

i think buckmark's estimate of 22 schollies next year is too optimistic.

with 12 guys graduating, + LMJ leaving, + 2 discretionary schollies (beard too) + a couple other guys leaving for whatever reason (it always happens), we'll be at 17ish. i don't see how you get to 22 from there without a bunch of attrition

[Boom]

LaMichael is a given. We're lucky he even came back this year.

Cliff is a real possibility. Needs to get bigger and be more consistent but he's in line for a great year.

Boyett is doubtful. Nice college player but 5'10 safeties without elite speed are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

Thomas also doubtful. Spread option quarterbacks are always a huge ? in the draft and he doesn't seem to have the elite tools that pro scouts look for.


Of course you can never tell who gets in a guys ear and tells him he's the greatest thing or if they are in a situation where they need to start to provide for their family, but I'd be shocked if Boyett and Thomas weren't around for their senior years.

You just described TJ Ward and he was a 2nd round pick

Boyett basically stole his starting spot from him during his senior.

[Phenom]

Not really. TJ is a lot bigger, better and harder tackler, and he tested surprisingly well in coverage drills.

[buckmarkduck]

Cliff at 160-170 won't be drafted higher than 4th round, why would he leave? He needs to live in the weight room over the next 2 years and get up to at least 185 to be a first round pick. At his size right now NFL WR's would eat him alive. Could you imagine him lined up against Andre Johnson, Megatron or even Wes Welker. It would be ugly.

[Boom]

Not really. TJ is a lot bigger, better and harder tackler, and he tested surprisingly well in coverage drills.

TJ weighed in at 211lbs the combine. Boyett is listed at 198lbs.

So I wouldn't say he's a lot bigger... Boyett could easily put some weight on before next season.

And I don't think TJ was the better player.

Boyett forced the coaches to put him on the field with his play...even after TJ got back from his ankle injury.

[Boom]

Cliff at 160-170 won't be drafted higher than 4th round, why would he leave? He needs to live in the weight room over the next 2 years and get up to at least 185 to be a first round pick.

Cliff's listed at 180 on goducks.... pretty sure they use actual numbers?

[TheMaehlMan]

Cliff at 160-170 won't be drafted higher than 4th round, why would he leave? He needs to live in the weight room over the next 2 years and get up to at least 185 to be a first round pick. At his size right now NFL WR's would eat him alive. Could you imagine him lined up against Andre Johnson, Megatron or even Wes Welker. It would be ugly.

If Darius Butler(I know random, you'd have to be a Pat fan to get it) can be drafted in the second round, then Cliff Harris sure can. It's hard to find corners with Cliff's ball-skills, he's at least going in the second round, proly 1st round.

[UofO8]

Not really. TJ is a lot bigger, better and harder tackler, and he tested surprisingly well in coverage drills.

Bigger? Yes, maybe a bit. But better? Nah, not really.

[GoDucksIn09]

I dont know any names.. but as usual one area we have to do a whole lot of work on landing is on our D line both at end.. and at tackle. It has been one area we have struggled with for awhile and hopefully we can finally get some top notch guys coming to Oregon. Then I would move to the O line as we need to continue building that as will lost one or 2 OL next year. The last area could use a little work on would be Defensive back.. assuming that after next year Cliff Harris leaves. I think he will. While I think we need to go after a qb or two i do not think Thomas will leave after next year.

On a side note.. for the whole class I think we need to keep setting the bar higher.. instead of a top 10 class.. lets go for a top 5 class. That means going after the best talents.

[rjfrik]

Cliff at 160-170 won't be drafted higher than 4th round, why would he leave? He needs to live in the weight room over the next 2 years and get up to at least 185 to be a first round pick. At his size right now NFL WR's would eat him alive. Could you imagine him lined up against Andre Johnson, Megatron or even Wes Welker. It would be ugly.

I hate to say it but Megatron and A.J. would dominate him. Cliff needs two more years to put on 20-25 pounds