#9 UCLA @ #10 Oregon (Oct. 22, Sat 12:30 PM Fox)

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dthomas=ddixon wrote:I’m curious why 1 game, the first of Lanning’s HC career and the staff’s as a whole, outweighs the 5 where we’ve shown to be exceptionally coached and prepared? Georgia knew exactly what we were running on D, no other team will have that advantage.

I get the respect for Chip but he’s been a mediocre head coach post-Oregon. He can still scheme up and call a game as good as anyone but they have to stop us first. Something no remaining defense has the ability to do without us beating ourselves.


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Not even factoring in the Georgia game, I still think is a toss up game. CK is deadly when he's on a roll. And he hasn't been on a roll in a long time, so for now I have to assume he'll be operating as the CK of old, which is insanely effective offensively. Our defense will have to have an A- game or better for me to think we will win. Anything less than that, then it makes me nervous this will be a 40+ point shootout where a couple turnovers or 4th down conversions will make or break the game. Making it more of a toss up then I'd hope for a top 10 Oregon team hosting anyone.
Yeah I just think it’s a lot of hype. They have 1 good win. They played great against Utah but also needed a FG as time expired to beat Georgia Southern at home. The UW win looked great at the time but beating them by 8 isn’t an impressive win at all now. UCLA is clearly a good team but nothing to be afraid of, especially at home.


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They could also say the same about us. We've beat teams with 1-5, 2-4, 3-4, 4-3, 4-3 records. The 3 teams we beat in the Pac-12 are respectfully last, second last, and third last in the Pac-12.

And I still think we had no business winning the Washington State game.

Maybe we are more hype too?

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dthomas=ddixon wrote:I’m curious why 1 game, the first of Lanning’s HC career and the staff’s as a whole, outweighs the 5 where we’ve shown to be exceptionally coached and prepared? Georgia knew exactly what we were running on D, no other team will have that advantage.

I get the respect for Chip but he’s been a mediocre head coach post-Oregon. He can still scheme up and call a game as good as anyone but they have to stop us first. Something no remaining defense has the ability to do without us beating ourselves.


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Not even factoring in the Georgia game, I still think is a toss up game. CK is deadly when he's on a roll. And he hasn't been on a roll in a long time, so for now I have to assume he'll be operating as the CK of old, which is insanely effective offensively. Our defense will have to have an A- game or better for me to think we will win. Anything less than that, then it makes me nervous this will be a 40+ point shootout where a couple turnovers or 4th down conversions will make or break the game. Making it more of a toss up then I'd hope for a top 10 Oregon team hosting anyone.
Yeah I just think it’s a lot of hype. They have 1 good win. They played great against Utah but also needed a FG as time expired to beat Georgia Southern at home. The UW win looked great at the time but beating them by 8 isn’t an impressive win at all now. UCLA is clearly a good team but nothing to be afraid of, especially at home.


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They could also say the same about us. We've beat teams with 1-5, 2-4, 3-4, 4-3, 4-3 records. The 3 teams we beat in the Pac-12 are respectfully last, second last, and third last in the Pac-12.

And I still think we had no business winning the Washington State game.

Maybe we are more hype too?
According to ESPN’s FPI our SOS is 16th, UCLA’s is 100th. But I’m not arguing that Oregon is some juggernaut, only that ucla isn’t.

Up until two games ago, UCLA looked like the UCLA of every year. What changed that were the wins over Washington and Utah. Is this the best they’ve been under Chip? Yeah, probably. Do they scare me? Not really.


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UOducksTK1 wrote:
dthomas=ddixon wrote:
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dthomas=ddixon wrote:I’m curious why 1 game, the first of Lanning’s HC career and the staff’s as a whole, outweighs the 5 where we’ve shown to be exceptionally coached and prepared? Georgia knew exactly what we were running on D, no other team will have that advantage.

I get the respect for Chip but he’s been a mediocre head coach post-Oregon. He can still scheme up and call a game as good as anyone but they have to stop us first. Something no remaining defense has the ability to do without us beating ourselves.


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Not even factoring in the Georgia game, I still think is a toss up game. CK is deadly when he's on a roll. And he hasn't been on a roll in a long time, so for now I have to assume he'll be operating as the CK of old, which is insanely effective offensively. Our defense will have to have an A- game or better for me to think we will win. Anything less than that, then it makes me nervous this will be a 40+ point shootout where a couple turnovers or 4th down conversions will make or break the game. Making it more of a toss up then I'd hope for a top 10 Oregon team hosting anyone.
Yeah I just think it’s a lot of hype. They have 1 good win. They played great against Utah but also needed a FG as time expired to beat Georgia Southern at home. The UW win looked great at the time but beating them by 8 isn’t an impressive win at all now. UCLA is clearly a good team but nothing to be afraid of, especially at home.


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They could also say the same about us. We've beat teams with 1-5, 2-4, 3-4, 4-3, 4-3 records. The 3 teams we beat in the Pac-12 are respectfully last, second last, and third last in the Pac-12.

And I still think we had no business winning the Washington State game.

Maybe we are more hype too?
Sure. And that one tough road game they played in front of 15 rowdy Colorado fans, was super impressive.
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dthomas=ddixon wrote:I’m curious why 1 game, the first of Lanning’s HC career and the staff’s as a whole, outweighs the 5 where we’ve shown to be exceptionally coached and prepared? Georgia knew exactly what we were running on D, no other team will have that advantage.

I get the respect for Chip but he’s been a mediocre head coach post-Oregon. He can still scheme up and call a game as good as anyone but they have to stop us first. Something no remaining defense has the ability to do without us beating ourselves.


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I can't believe I am about to say this but............Nix is the real deal. Dude is gold under pressure, he is legit. I have total confidence he will put the team on his back and win this game at all costs.
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dthomas=ddixon wrote:I’m curious why 1 game, the first of Lanning’s HC career and the staff’s as a whole, outweighs the 5 where we’ve shown to be exceptionally coached and prepared? Georgia knew exactly what we were running on D, no other team will have that advantage.

I get the respect for Chip but he’s been a mediocre head coach post-Oregon. He can still scheme up and call a game as good as anyone but they have to stop us first. Something no remaining defense has the ability to do without us beating ourselves.


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I can't believe I am about to say this but............Nix is the real deal. Dude is gold under pressure, he is legit. I have total confidence he will put the team on his back and win this game at all costs.

Nix never had an OL like this before. When a QB has time, they look a lot different. He also never had a scheme like Dilly’s I, or the all around skilll players.
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Given the bye weeks for each team, how well each team is playing, and how HUGE I think it would be for Chip to come away with a victory against (and at) the school where he first "emerged," I can only think this game will be a high scoring barn-burner that could end up going into OT.

But I sure hope those of you expressing solid confidence with respect to the Ducks are proven correct.
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UCLA off a Bye under Chip

2021 - Loss 40-37 vs Fresno St
2020 - NA
2019 - Win 34-16 at Stanford
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Duck07 wrote:UCLA off a Bye under Chip

2021 - Loss 40-37 vs Fresno St
2020 - NA
2019 - Win 34-16 at Stanford
2018 - Loss 38-16 at Colorado
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Duck07 wrote:UCLA off a Bye under Chip

2021 - Loss 40-37 vs Fresno St
2020 - NA
2019 - Win 34-16 at Stanford
2018 - Loss 38-16 at Colorado

It’s like some people forget he looked for every opportunity to leave UO. Then when he finally leaves, he talked Mullens and Uncke Phil into hiring Helf. And since leaving he has been fired twice, and turned two locker rooms against himself. If he didn’t have his record at UO, he more than likely would have been fired at ucla already.
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buckmarkduck wrote:
Duck07 wrote:UCLA off a Bye under Chip

2021 - Loss 40-37 vs Fresno St
2020 - NA
2019 - Win 34-16 at Stanford
2018 - Loss 38-16 at Colorado

It’s like some people forget he looked for every opportunity to leave UO. Then when he finally leaves, he talked Mullens and Uncke Phil into hiring Helf. And since leaving he has been fired twice, and turned two locker rooms against himself. If he didn’t have his record at UO, he more than likely would have been fired at ucla already.
This is a negative, and I think non-realistic, perspective on his performance since leaving.

First, he started with Eagles. Eagles were coming off two sucky years:

2011: 8-8
2012: 4-12

And then turned out this performance:
2013: 10-6 (Nick Foles as starter + tons of talent)
2014: 10-6 (Nick Foles has best season of career thx to Chip.....by far)
2015: 6-9 (traded best RB in the league)

I consider the Eagles experiment a success. I think there was a lot of unfair attention brought against him (by media + some players) because of unconventional styles of coaching/play-calling, but the on-field success was there.

OK, the 49ers experiment was an utter disaster. You are correct there, but he only got one season so you can't really made a big judgement.

Now, what about UCLA. The seasons before chip was:

2016: 4-8
2017: 6-7

And then Chip:

2018: 3-9
2019:4-8
2020: 3-4
2021: 8-4
2022: 6-0

A slow + steady turnaround from irrelevance to a contender in the Pac-12.


Chip is the best. Thx.
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Duck07 wrote:UCLA off a Bye under Chip

2021 - Loss 40-37 vs Fresno St
2020 - NA
2019 - Win 34-16 at Stanford
2018 - Loss 38-16 at Colorado
Meh his teams with UCLA have been terrible. This team is different and operating at a very high level offensively, similar to that of his Oregon years. So looking at how he did off BYEs at Oregon would be better sample data.

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Both teams are statically very close. UCLA deserves to be ranked slightly higher as they have 2 wins better than Oregon's best win, their best loss (nada) is better than Oregon's best loss. Both teams had a squeaker win against teams they were much more talented than.

Oregon deserves to be the favorite because the game is in Eugene. Logically based on their performances this year both teams offenses should light up the other teams defense though both teams defenses are ok.

Redzone problems (like Oregon had at WSU), turnovers, bad calls or bad breaks may well be a likely decider in a game like this between teams that appear so evenly matched. That is my prediction, that at the end of the game the loser will be remorseful over bad breaks and calls, not one team showing themselves as clearly superior.
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GrandpaDuck wrote:Both teams are statically very close. UCLA deserves to be ranked slightly higher as they have 2 wins better than Oregon's best win, their best loss (nada) is better than Oregon's best loss. Both teams had a squeaker win against teams they were much more talented than.

Oregon deserves to be the favorite because the game is in Eugene. Logically based on their performances this year both teams offenses should light up the other teams defense though both teams defenses are ok.

Redzone problems (like Oregon had at WSU), turnovers, bad calls or bad breaks may well be a likely decider in a game like this between teams that appear so evenly matched. That is my prediction, that at the end of the game the loser will be remorseful over bad breaks and calls, not one team showing themselves as clearly superior.
My views as well^.

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dd10snoop28 wrote:
A slow + steady turnaround from irrelevance to a contender in the Pac-12.


Chip is the best. Thx.
Imo, he's a big beneficiary from the transfer portal rule changes too [first big rule change went into effect last season]. It's a different approach to roster management compared to many other schools and makes his life easier in some ways since he hates courting high school kids.

There's a direct quote from him last year:

“Five years from now, you’re probably not gonna be around, so everything’s year to year. We don’t really look at it as recruiting anymore, we look at it as team-building, so how do we build the best team for the 2022 season and that’s a combination of high school [players] and transfers."
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