In preparation for Masoli's potential departure...

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Depth chart now looks likes this for 2010:
Costa or Thomas
Hawkins
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For 2011:
Thomas
Masoli
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I think you start Darron Thomas. The guy has been at Oregon learning the offence for three years, has shown flashes of brilliance, and is a hell of an athlete. Some may say he's inexperienced but with the offensive weapons around him he doesn't need to come in and win games by himself. He's got enough weapons in the offence that all he needs to do is get them the ball on safe plays and let them do the heavy lifting. Plus i'd rather have him be a bit rough around the edges this year as opposed to next when he won't have as much talent around him.
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cdnducksfan wrote:I think you start Darron Thomas. The guy has been at Oregon learning the offence for three years, has shown flashes of brilliance, and is a hell of an athlete. Some may say he's inexperienced but with the offensive weapons around him he doesn't need to come in and win games by himself. He's got enough weapons in the offence that all he needs to do is get them the ball on safe plays and let them do the heavy lifting. Plus i'd rather have him be a bit rough around the edges this year as opposed to next when he won't have as much talent around him.
Are we losing our talent? Seems we have more talent than that (James, Barner, Lache,Williams just @ RB)
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duck55 wrote:
cdnducksfan wrote:I think you start Darron Thomas. The guy has been at Oregon learning the offence for three years, has shown flashes of brilliance, and is a hell of an athlete. Some may say he's inexperienced but with the offensive weapons around him he doesn't need to come in and win games by himself. He's got enough weapons in the offence that all he needs to do is get them the ball on safe plays and let them do the heavy lifting. Plus i'd rather have him be a bit rough around the edges this year as opposed to next when he won't have as much talent around him.
Are we losing our talent? Seems we have more talent than that (James, Barner, Lache,Williams just @ RB)
Defense is getting gutted after this year + Maehl and Davis are graduating (2 best receivers) as well as 2 or 3 Offensive linemen.
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Maybe that should read "two best receivers left over from the 2009 Rose Bowl Team".

Methinks there are a couple guys who have not taken the field yet for the Ducks just waiting to make some noise.
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woundedknees wrote:Maybe that should read "two best receivers left over from the 2009 Rose Bowl Team".

Methinks there are a couple guys who have not taken the field yet for the Ducks just waiting to make some noise.
Like Gaines, Jackson, and Cantu.
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well Maehl is still gonna be the number 1 regardless of how Gaines and Jackson do.
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Cool, Maehl is number 1 but Gaines and Jackson just might be OK in 2011. Every year we lose talent and replace it with someone else.
I think the Ducks will do fairly well even after next season.
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Tray Dub wrote:I'm 100% trusting the coaches on this one. Whoever Kelly wants to start is who I want to start.

That being said, I don't know why people knock Costa's running ability so much. He's not Usain Bolt, but he can get up and pick up yards. Thomas is probably faster, but I think some people are overestimating how much difference there is between the two. Remember how bad we were when Masoli couldn't throw the ball at the beginning of the 08 season? I fear that's what happens with Thomas. I saw a LOT of inaccuracy from DT in the BSU game (I know it's an unpopular opinion, but the receivers bailed him out a lot and made some ridiculous grabs) and more in the spring game. Maybe it's improved, but if not, I prefer Costa. Until CK says otherwise.
I am with you on this Tray. I know Costa has a bum knee, but it seems like I read where he was a track star at one point - and perhaps his rehab is getting him back. I think it is up for grabs and I just want the best man to "win the day"
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If the technique used to repair Costa's knee in the latest surgery had been applied the first time around, odds are we would not be having this conversation...

A portion of Nate's own patellae tendon was utilized, which is able to regenerate itself, unlike the cadaver tendon originally used, and so is much stronger and likely to hold up under stress than the original.

More than anything, Nate needs confidence in his ability to make the cuts and moves he needs to perform the job to the best advantage. That takes time and repetition.

This could be a very enjoyable competition.
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woundedknees wrote:If the technique used to repair Costa's knee in the latest surgery had been applied the first time around, odds are we would not be having this conversation...

A portion of Nate's own patellae tendon was utilized, which is able to regenerate itself, unlike the cadaver tendon originally used, and so is much stronger and likely to hold up under stress than the original.

More than anything, Nate needs confidence in his ability to make the cuts and moves he needs to perform the job to the best advantage. That takes time and repetition.

This could be a very enjoyable competition.
Most people who have had cadaver ligaments put in tend to rupture their ACL again since the cadaver ligament doesn't always get accepted by the body, which means the ligament doesn't become as strong as before.
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The battle between Costa and Thomas will be toss up, one of them could have good week and other have bad week during spring and fall practice. I want one of them to be qb starter for the ducks, either way both of them will be ready in backup or starting postion. In the end we will have to trust coach kelly's descision. May the best man win the job in qb postion, we will support them no matter what. Bennett and Hawkins will also give chance too, never know they can suprise us and play light out in practice. I am really excited and can't wait for spring game, I love my ducks and GO DUCKS!
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I am excited about the prospect of Costa or DT playing because I am interested in seeing if they are able to open up Chip's playbook with a more efficient passing game. The run game is going to be there and with Thomas the option will be there. The games the Ducks have lost over the last 2 years (other than the Stanford game) were because the opposing team was able to stop the run and Masoli was unable to pass the ball. Masoli only had a few good passing games. I really enjoyed watching Masoli run the option offense and run over people but I am looking forward to seeing the Ducks be more balanced with a good running attack and a down the field air attack.
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gofightingducks wrote:I am excited about the prospect of Costa or DT playing because I am interested in seeing if they are able to open up Chip's playbook with a more efficient passing game. The run game is going to be there and with Thomas the option will be there. The games the Ducks have lost over the last 2 years (other than the Stanford game) were because the opposing team was able to stop the run and Masoli was unable to pass the ball. Masoli only had a few good passing games. I really enjoyed watching Masoli run the option offense and run over people but I am looking forward to seeing the Ducks be more balanced with a good running attack and a down the field air attack.
Well said this is how I feel! I look forward to Spring ball reports and the progression of all our QBs...

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